Nolte: 16 Reasons Why I Believe Joe Biden Sexually Assaulted Tara Reade [merged threads]

[Boiler 45,956]

2 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I actually read that long article. Very balanced analysis.  Which begs the question,  how did it get in the NYT?

 

I have said from day one this whole thing is designed by operatives in the DNC to take out Biden. He is impaired and they know it.  Its not gonna be Hillary.

shurely shome mishtake, wonder if that phrase is understood, but sums it up. Fascinating to speculate how it got in, I would be hard pushed to think it was accidental.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

4 minutes ago, Boiler said:

shurely shome mishtake, wonder if that phrase is understood, but sums it up. Fascinating to speculate how it got in, I would be hard pushed to think it was accidental.

No because the DNC is s double agent

[Dashinka 24,741]

8 hours ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

I will have to listen to them on my way to work in the morning. But that is what Rising said as well is that Hayes tends to be more of a straight shooter than everyone else. I am not happy with the NYT right now because they initially wrote a article about this then they rewrote the article after pressure from the Biden campaign, which this very same article that got rewrote has been used by different people like Klobacher and Abrams that "they did not find any truth to it".

I wonder if Jill will be doing all the talking?

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

42 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

I wonder if Jill will be doing all the talking?

I tuned in only to find out that it will be in 1 hour or around 8am EST

[laylalex 7,300]

3 hours ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

I tuned in only to find out that it will be in 1 hour or around 8am EST

Sorry those lying liars at MSNBC told me otherwise!  Catching up now, I've been busy in the kitchen this morning. 

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

40 minutes ago, laylalex said:

Sorry those lying liars at MSNBC told me otherwise!  Catching up now, I've been busy in the kitchen this morning. 

I ended up listening to it while at the desk on my SiriusXm app on my phone. Since I can't use YT right now due to everyone hogging the bandwidth doing VPN, they shut down YT. But it was weird to me how he is fine with the National Archives being opened but not his personal archives in Delaware in regards to this allegation

[Ban Hammer 13,491]

55 minutes ago, laylalex said:

Catching up now, I've been busy in the kitchen this morning. 

yay alex!

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8 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

yay alex!

We really need an Alex Appreciation Thread, at the moment it is spread out.

[Ban Hammer 13,491]

19 minutes ago, Boiler said:

We really need an Alex Appreciation Thread, at the moment it is spread out.

it can also showcase layla's sammich making skills with pics!

[TBoneTX 45,962]

56 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

layla's sammich making skills

Did you get one?  I didn't.

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33 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

Did you get one?  I didn't.

not yet, but it's on the platinum application now to provide them.

[shaolincrane 69]

On 4/28/2020 at 6:45 AM, Burnt Reynolds said:

There needs to be more proof, a lot more, and if proven true, she needs to be shamed for waiting until now to do this as there could've been more victims.

That's ridiculous, she should never be shamed for being the victim in any way. I don't know about you but if I had to wait 20 years stewing on something to hurt someone more powerful than myself in a way to exact justice I totally would.

 

There's thousands of reasons why women can't come forward and if they see an immediate opening or weakness to make their response vital, painful and actionable, then so be it.

 

To suggest she needs to be shamed for what happened and how she chose to respond, seriously, #######.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

2 hours ago, shaolincrane said:

That's ridiculous, she should never be shamed for being the victim in any way. I don't know about you but if I had to wait 20 years stewing on something to hurt someone more powerful than myself in a way to exact justice I totally would.

 

There's thousands of reasons why women can't come forward and if they see an immediate opening or weakness to make their response vital, painful and actionable, then so be it.

 

To suggest she needs to be shamed for what happened and how she chose to respond, seriously, #######.

How someone responds directly relates to the credibility of their claims especially if it's coupled with flimsy hearsay. Someone who is in danger tends to behave in certain ways, someone who was violated tends to behave in certain ways, in absence of things factual, all that remains is inference and if recent history is any guide accusations like this aren't trustworthy when not coupled with proof. There's no reason to believe this is anything but an attention seeking political hit job until proven otherwise. That's the standard set.

[shaolincrane 69]

15 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

How someone responds directly relates to the credibility of their claims especially if it's coupled with flimsy hearsay. Someone who is in danger tends to behave in certain ways, someone who was violated tends to behave in certain ways, in absence of things factual, all that remains is inference and if recent history is any guide accusations like this aren't trustworthy when not coupled with proof. There's no reason to believe this is anything but an attention seeking political hit job until proven otherwise. That's the standard set.

You typed what I quoted "if proven true..."

 

So whatever your personal opinion about the accusations is a whole completely different discussion, how anyone chooses to respond as a sexual assault victim is never to be shamed for.

 

I am a DT instructor and have worked with hundreds of male and female survivors of sexual assault and they all handle their responses differently, ranging from telling anyone who will listen to not telling anyone for nearly 40 years until revealed to me in training if for nothing other than to try to heal. They all compartmentalize information about the event differently as well. Some can remember exact details, some can only remember a scent, a certain pitch of a person's breathing, a laugh, etc and this is from people who were completely conscious during the entire assault. Some would have a minor incident trigger everything as if it happened the day before even a decade later. In one case a student had a complete mental breakdown and lost over 2 years of his, yes his,  memory after he told his father another gay student raped him.

 

One student even had video of multiple assaults in his group home and still didn't say anything for 6 years until he was finally out of the group home because his fear was he would be put somewhere worse. He didn't come forward with the videos until he saw his attacker was getting married years after he left the home.

 

They all had various and completely legitimate reasons for not saying anything, waiting to say anything and how they chose to finally (if ever) respond. The public often uses high profile events as these to paint the often delayed response as "inadmissible" or that they're lying in an attempt to demoralize their victims again.

 

I don't care one way or another for whatever "facts" are being argued. No one should ever be shamed for their trauma, ever.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

1 minute ago, shaolincrane said:

You typed what I quoted "if proven true..."

 

So whatever your personal opinion about the accusations is a whole completely different discussion, how anyone chooses to respond as a sexual assault victim is never to be shamed for.

 

I am a DT instructor and have worked with hundreds of male and female survivors of sexual assault and they all handle their responses differently, ranging from telling anyone who will listen to not telling anyone for nearly 40 years until revealed to me in training if for nothing other than to try to heal. They all compartmentalize information about the event differently as well. Some can remember exact details, some can only remember a scent, a certain pitch of a person's breathing, a laugh, etc and this is from people who were completely conscious during the entire assault. Some would have a minor incident trigger everything as if it happened the day before even a decade later. In one case a student had a complete mental breakdown and lost over 2 years of his, yes his,  memory after he told his father another gay student raped him.

 

One student even had video of multiple assaults in his group home and still didn't say anything for 6 years until he was finally out of the group home because his fear was he would be put somewhere worse. He didn't come forward with the videos until he saw his attacker was getting married years after he left the home.

 

They all had various and completely legitimate reasons for not saying anything, waiting to say anything and how they chose to finally (if ever) respond. The public often uses high profile events as these to paint the often delayed response as "inadmissible" or that they're lying in an attempt to demoralize their victims again.

 

I don't care one way or another for whatever "facts" are being argued. No one should ever be shamed for their trauma, ever.

People should be shamed for weaponizing sexual assault. It's not a weapon. It's a crime. And by not doing something about it right away, if it really happened, one allows other victims to fall prey to that predator. 

 

The attempts to weaponize this, especially in recent times with extremely fraudulent claims, winds up being entirely counterproductive, it makes people less believable. So if that's the intent, it's going well.