Nolte: 16 Reasons Why I Believe Joe Biden Sexually Assaulted Tara Reade [merged threads]

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

41 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

She who shall not be named?

Cuomo 

[Boiler 45,956]

15 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Cuomo 

Fredo?

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Cuomo 

 

1 hour ago, Boiler said:

Fredo?

 

That's "he who will not be blamed".

[Boiler 45,956]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/tara-reade-joe-biden-sexual-assault-claim-larry-king-video-a9487001.html

 

Tara Reade uses 1993 Larry King clip to back up sexual assault claims against Joe Biden

‘I’m wondering what a staffer would do besides go to the press in Washington’

 

Resurfaced footage from Larry King Live, appears to show the mother of Tara Reade, who has accused Joe Biden of sexual assault, ask the host for advice about inappropriate behaviour in Washington.

In the clip, which is from 1993, the same year that Ms Reade claims that Mr Biden assaulted her, an unnamed woman asked for advice to give her daughter.

“I’m wondering what a staffer would do besides go to the press in Washington?” the woman asked, in the clip resurfaced by The Intercept.

“My daughter has just left there after working for a prominent senator, and could not get through with her problems at all, and the only thing she could have done was go to the press, and she chose not to do it out of respect for him,” she added.

The host, Larry King, responded: “In other words, she had a story to tell but out of respect for the person she worked for, she didn’t tell it?” and the woman replies: “That’s true.”

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Edited April 28, 2020 by TBoneTX

[laylalex 7,300]

So I have had a lot of conflicting feelings about this story, which I think is a perfectly reasonable reaction, both as a human and as a feminist. I've been talking about it privately with friends and some online acquaintances, because it DOES make me challenge any number of my prejudices, and I think it's good to thrash these things out and continue to question oneself. Mildly relevant is the fact I did not support the removal of Al Franken at the time from the Senate, though I would have welcomed a full investigation.

 

My initial reaction is to believe Tara Reade. As someone who is a survivor of sexual assault myself (though not in an employer-employee context), I know how hard it is to come forward about these things. At the time it happened to me, I was a teenager and I opened up only to my sister, and not even until months after it started happening. I was terrified because my attacker was my boyfriend, and I loved him and didn't want him to get in trouble. I've still only opened up about the details to therapists, my husband and fiance (and him only in the past two weeks). My attacker isn't anywhere near as famous as Joe Biden, but he grew up to be somebody who has had some success in his field -- if you Googled him, you'd find him right away. I am not ready to go public like Reade has, and may never be -- it takes more bravery than I have, at least right now. I watched what happened to Dr. Ford the other year and I don't think I could withstand even a spoonful of what was doled out upon her for coming forward. He has fans, and I don't want to handle a second helping of abuse.

 

So I understand why it might take years to come forward and to be more specific about details. I really do. But there are other things that have given me maybe a little more pause. First is the fact that outfits like the New Yorker didn't want to touch this story -- not because of political bias (and I know all of you will argue about that with me) but because the story could not be verified. People around Reade have said that her story has shifted over the years, and some of her changes seem to coincide with some... strange shifts in her tone online. If you asked the people I have confided in, they would tell you that I have been consistent in my story. The only thing that has changed is my willingness to blame him rather than myself for what happened between us.

 

However, there is not only her mother's recording (which is less concrete about the nature of the assault) and also more damningly the new report from her neighbor, only a couple a years after the alleged assault. The neighbor is a Democrat and has said she will vote for Biden anyway. If you haven't seen it, it's here, and it brought me close to tears: https://www.businessinsider.com/former-neighbor-corroborates-joe-bidens-accuser-2020-4

 

So the cynical, political beast in me says, fine, fine. It's not like Trump hasn't had similarly terrible accusations made against him and his supporters sailed on by. But I can't, I'm not that good of a sailor. I think there is a middle path, between dismissing the allegations out of hand (a la Trump) and Al Franken resigning without anything more than some seemingly damning evidence. Why not subject the matter to a Kavanaugh-style hearing? Why not let the two present their sides? I guess the ultimate judge would be the DNC, but make the hearings public. Let's hear it all. Let the public decide, since the statute of limitations has passed.

 

Just some ideas, from an actual Democrat.

[Dashinka 24,741]

7 hours ago, laylalex said:

So I have had a lot of conflicting feelings about this story, which I think is a perfectly reasonable reaction, both as a human and as a feminist. I've been talking about it privately with friends and some online acquaintances, because it DOES make me challenge any number of my prejudices, and I think it's good to thrash these things out and continue to question oneself. Mildly relevant is the fact I did not support the removal of Al Franken at the time from the Senate, though I would have welcomed a full investigation.

 

My initial reaction is to believe Tara Reade. As someone who is a survivor of sexual assault myself (though not in an employer-employee context), I know how hard it is to come forward about these things. At the time it happened to me, I was a teenager and I opened up only to my sister, and not even until months after it started happening. I was terrified because my attacker was my boyfriend, and I loved him and didn't want him to get in trouble. I've still only opened up about the details to therapists, my husband and fiance (and him only in the past two weeks). My attacker isn't anywhere near as famous as Joe Biden, but he grew up to be somebody who has had some success in his field -- if you Googled him, you'd find him right away. I am not ready to go public like Reade has, and may never be -- it takes more bravery than I have, at least right now. I watched what happened to Dr. Ford the other year and I don't think I could withstand even a spoonful of what was doled out upon her for coming forward. He has fans, and I don't want to handle a second helping of abuse.

 

So I understand why it might take years to come forward and to be more specific about details. I really do. But there are other things that have given me maybe a little more pause. First is the fact that outfits like the New Yorker didn't want to touch this story -- not because of political bias (and I know all of you will argue about that with me) but because the story could not be verified. People around Reade have said that her story has shifted over the years, and some of her changes seem to coincide with some... strange shifts in her tone online. If you asked the people I have confided in, they would tell you that I have been consistent in my story. The only thing that has changed is my willingness to blame him rather than myself for what happened between us.

 

However, there is not only her mother's recording (which is less concrete about the nature of the assault) and also more damningly the new report from her neighbor, only a couple a years after the alleged assault. The neighbor is a Democrat and has said she will vote for Biden anyway. If you haven't seen it, it's here, and it brought me close to tears: https://www.businessinsider.com/former-neighbor-corroborates-joe-bidens-accuser-2020-4

 

So the cynical, political beast in me says, fine, fine. It's not like Trump hasn't had similarly terrible accusations made against him and his supporters sailed on by. But I can't, I'm not that good of a sailor. I think there is a middle path, between dismissing the allegations out of hand (a la Trump) and Al Franken resigning without anything more than some seemingly damning evidence. Why not subject the matter to a Kavanaugh-style hearing? Why not let the two present their sides? I guess the ultimate judge would be the DNC, but make the hearings public. Let's hear it all. Let the public decide, since the statute of limitations has passed.

 

Just some ideas, from an actual Democrat.

This is absolutely true, but the point is how hypocritical the mainstream media is.  Trump has had multiple accusations leveled that the mainstream media covered in depth.  Kavanaugh had a questionable accusation leveled along with some that were made up, and the mainstream media dutifully took sides and  covered them as infinitum.  Is this accusation credible, who knows, just cover it the same way from a political perspective. 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

As this unfolds, the hypocrisy from left and the lame stream press smells like a necrotizing three  day dead opossum, left to rot in the July sun of Georgia. 

 

This is the same bunch of jaundiced howling jackels that a short time ago proclaimed, " Women must be believed"!  They gave 24/7 coverage to a militant liberal feminist from one of the most radical colleges in the Nation, who had zero proof.  Amazingly she could not remember any details about these life changing event and had zero witnesses of any kind that ever placed her near the incident.. Dr. Ford was such an obvious fraud Helen Keller could have spotted her from 100 yards.

 

Yet we are starting to see very clearly Ms. Reade is telling the truth. Her own words, her neighbor recalling her sharing the story, the mothers phone call to Larry King. All in all a smoking gun.

 

Yet only a buried byline from CNN. Barely a mention from the same bunch that spent  werks trying to Lynch Justice Kavanaugh on obviously false charges.

 

As a person that tries to never let my personal like or dislike of a politician cloud my moral judgment,  i ask. Do we have any intellectual honest liberals left in America?

[Dashinka 24,741]

23 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

As this unfolds, the hypocrisy from left and the lame stream press smells like a necrotizing three  day dead opossum, left to rot in the July sun of Georgia. 

 

This is the same bunch of jaundiced howling jackels that a short time ago proclaimed, " Women must be believed"!  They gave 24/7 coverage to a militant liberal feminist from one of the most radical colleges in the Nation, who had zero proof.  Amazingly she could not remember any details about these life changing event and had zero witnesses of any kind that ever placed her near the incident.. Dr. Ford was such an obvious fraud Helen Keller could have spotted her from 100 yards.

 

Yet we are starting to see very clearly Ms. Reade is telling the truth. Her own words, her neighbor recalling her sharing the story, the mothers phone call to Larry King. All in all a smoking gun.

 

Yet only a buried byline from CNN. Barely a mention from the same bunch that spent  werks trying to Lynch Justice Kavanaugh on obviously false charges.

 

As a person that tries to never let my personal like or dislike of a politician cloud my moral judgment,  i ask. Do we have any intellectual honest liberals left in America?

Not just the media types, but Old Joe himself although I doubt he remembers.  And no we do not have any honest no hypocritical leftist left in America at least in the media, or among the political elite.

 

Summing up the approach he had taken toward Title IX in a 2017 conversation, Biden put it simply: “I believe you.”

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/the-hypocrisy-on-tara-reade-is-a-national-disgrace/

Edited April 28, 2020 by Dashinka

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

As this unfolds, the hypocrisy from left and the lame stream press smells like a necrotizing three  day dead opossum, left to rot in the July sun of Georgia. 

 

This is the same bunch of jaundiced howling jackels that a short time ago proclaimed, " Women must be believed"!  They gave 24/7 coverage to a militant liberal feminist from one of the most radical colleges in the Nation, who had zero proof.  Amazingly she could not remember any details about these life changing event and had zero witnesses of any kind that ever placed her near the incident.. Dr. Ford was such an obvious fraud Helen Keller could have spotted her from 100 yards.

 

Yet we are starting to see very clearly Ms. Reade is telling the truth. Her own words, her neighbor recalling her sharing the story, the mothers phone call to Larry King. All in all a smoking gun.

 

Yet only a buried byline from CNN. Barely a mention from the same bunch that spent  werks trying to Lynch Justice Kavanaugh on obviously false charges.

 

As a person that tries to never let my personal like or dislike of a politician cloud my moral judgment,  i ask. Do we have any intellectual honest liberals left in America?

No doubt, this goes way way beyond the sort of non-corroborated garbage in the fabricated Ford situation, but understand that the left, and Democrat Party, are just a few levels of above-mediocre coordination from being exactly where this is, if all the anti-Trump hearings in Nadler/Schiff committees haven't been enough of a clue.

 

Which is why its essential to be steadfast in employing the basic standards of beyond reasonable doubt. Similarly, Reade decided not to go to the police until now. 

 

Certainly, its a demonstration of the left's heinous weaponization of MeToo and typical hypocrisy, but it doesn't mean we accept rock bottom standards. Rape/sexual assault is a crime, a crime is not a weapon to hold onto until the most expedient time. Right now there's more evidence that this is a political hit job than Biden actually did something to this person. There needs to be more proof, a lot more, and if proven true, she needs to be shamed for waiting until now to do this as there could've been more victims.

Edited April 28, 2020 by Burnt Reynolds

[Dashinka 24,741]

15 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

No doubt, this goes way way beyond the sort of non-corroborated garbage in the fabricated Ford situation, but understand that the left, and Democrat Party, are just a few levels of above-mediocre coordination from being exactly where this is, if all the anti-Trump hearings in Nadler/Schiff committees haven't been enough of a clue.

 

Which is why its essential to be steadfast in employing the basic standards of beyond reasonable doubt. Similarly, Reade decided not to go to the police until now. 

 

Certainly, its a demonstration of the left's heinous weaponization of MeToo and typical hypocrisy, but it doesn't mean we accept rock bottom standards. Rape/sexual assault is a crime, a crime is not a weapon to hold onto until the most expedient time. Right now there's more evidence that this is a political hit job than Biden actually did something to this person. There needs to be more proof, a lot more, and if proven true, she needs to be shamed for waiting until now to do this as there could've been more victims.

The big problem though is that the media only does rock bottom.  Beyond that, the only thing that can be done is to point out the hypocrisy and double standards that exist.  More and more people are waking up to the fact that the political media is not filled with journalists, but rather political activist.

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3 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

As a person that tries to never let my personal like or dislike of a politician cloud my moral judgment,  i ask. Do we have any intellectual honest liberals left in America?

There are people on the Left that are covering this btw. They usually tend to be more Independent journalists or more Left wing/Progressive types like Katie Halper and Krystal Ball. But it is being covered almost daily. I know The Rising is covering it and even covering up the cover up in regards to how almost no MSM outlets are coving it. Saagar has a running count on how many interviews Biden has been on without even a mention of this being asked

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On 4/27/2020 at 12:25 PM, Boiler said:

Fredo?

He does not like that.

 

 

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38 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

There are people on the Left that are covering this btw. They usually tend to be more Independent journalists or more Left wing/Progressive types like Katie Halper and Krystal Ball. But it is being covered almost daily. I know The Rising is covering it and even covering up the cover up in regards to how almost no MSM outlets are coving it. Saagar has a running count on how many interviews Biden has been on without even a mention of this being asked

I agree, the Bernie activist/supporters are covering it.  It is the center left mainstream media that is running interference for old Joe.

[laylalex 7,300]

The coverage is there in mainstream media, it's just not coming down on the side of "we completely believe her." And I do think it's right to be skeptical of her while still being open to her claims. I mean, that's basically where I am right now. And it's kind of asinine, I think, to say Dr. Ford's claims were completely spurious when there was actually quite a bit to support what she said. I don't think that what we have about Reade right now is more or less believable than Dr. Ford's claims -- it's just that Reade's claims sound more serious. Just because you prefer a narrative doesn't make it true, and that runs in both directions. I'm saying it about my own perceptions here as well.

 

I am very well aware of my own prejudices and as a result I am asking myself to be open. As much as I do not want it to be true, I must also prepare myself for the reality that it is. The question becomes, to me at least, and then what?