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1 hour ago, Boiler said:

I remember the discussions on here back in the day when MeToo was getting going, you could see it being weaponised and it did seem that there was a certain faction that thought it was something they could control. But life is not like that.

 

I can see the problem, how does a legal system which requires as a norm beyond reasonable doubt respond to a situation where it seems very rare for that to be the case. So the Law can not reasonable respond and you end up with a media farce.

 

People search for clear solutions and life is messy.

Indeed. In the early colonial days they had mob justice, it was later used as the basis for protecting the accused, ensuring better standards of proof were needed. Naturally, it allowed for people who were criminals to get a pass due to lack of evidence, but it's been the best criminal justice system (and methodology) seen, as we find a justice system let by a mob is far, far worse. The "progressives" trying to bring back a modern version of mob justice have no intent on trying to instill a reasonable form of justice (as seen by how consistently they refuse to adhere to the standards they try and set), they're simply using it as a mechanism of taking their anger out on people they disagree with for not giving them their way.

 

Society was at a point where it was more inclined to believe women just out of support, not necessarily willing to change the legal system as a whole. This movement and its aforementioned weaponization utterly wrecked that progress. With so many hoaxes and timed accusations hellbent on destroying people, there's zero reason to believe women now. It's a perfect illustration of why the founders didn't want that mob trash in the first place and why it's held up so long even as the legal system has made changes. It also illustrates why we call the motives into question of people that so comprehensively are aiming at tearing apart the foundations of what made the nation what it is, and so great.

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I have a feeling some did not consider how such a change could be misused.

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41 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I have a feeling some did not consider how such a change could be misused.

The unintended consequences are rarely considered.

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1 hour ago, Boiler said:

some did not consider how such a change could be misused

Or some didn't CARE.

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This is an excellent piece on how liberal feminists need to remember that part of feminism is speaking truth to power, and that just because one party supports feminist goals more frequently than another doesn't mean you should shut up and take it: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/04/metoo-is-more-important-than-joe-biden.html

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We’ll settle for Biden, and men like him, over and over; we’ll tell ourselves the conservative is worse, that at least the Democrat will make a woman his vice-president. We’ll eat scraps, and we’ll still go hungry, and all we’ll leave to our children is a political future only a little bit better than the present. Our grand prize? To clean up after men like Joe Biden. That isn’t power. It’s just women’s work.

 

I am still very conflicted about this. I am not a single issue voter, and never have been, but there is simply no universe in which I could vote for Trump or for a third party during this election. I do not believe Trump is the leader this country needs, and his removal is more important to me than a specific candidate, provided that the party itself (1) is large enough that its candidate could defeat Trump and (2) has policies that generally align with my political concerns. Quite simply, that means that I must vote for a Democrat. Ideally, in my view, the DNC would select another candidate, not necessarily Bernie. 

 

There needs to be a proper investigation -- Reade needs to be properly interviewed by law enforcement, and not by journalists alone. There are so many inconsistencies in her story but it doesn't mean it isn't true. And if true, Biden should not be the candidate who will get the nomination. 

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1 hour ago, laylalex said:

. I do not believe Trump is the leader this country needs, and his removal is more important to me than a specific candidate, provided that the party itself (1) is large enough that its candidate could defeat Trump and (2) has policies that generally align with my political concerns. Quite simply, that means that I must vote for a Democrat. Ideally, in my view, the DNC would select another candidate, not necessarily Bernie. 

Why?  What has he done for America in 3 years that is so bad in your mind?  What policies has he instituted/changed that are detrimental for us as a country?

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12 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

You don't have to breathe either, but it helps the skin tone!

 

 

This sounds like something for the Beauty Thread.

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1 hour ago, laylalex said:

I don't have to give you a why. :) 

it's her last way to defy alex...........

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I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.

 

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17 minutes ago, laylalex said:

A little defiance now and then isn't such a very bad thing. :) It can lead to... fun. :lol: 

as long as the sammiches get made.

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I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.

 

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Hillary Clinton bids to raise millions for Jpe Biden with $100,000 ...

 

So who has signed up? And at what level?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

 

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