Need to go to Ukraine

[mikefromNJ 5]

I need to go to Ukraine . I am New Jersey right now. 
My fiance and son is in Ukraine. I plan on flying on first part of June. 

is there voluntary or mandatory quarantina?
I still see flights being sold for Ukraine. 
please share all you know. 

[gregcrs2 1,778]

It's currently a voluntary 14 day quarantine and for now remains in effect until May 11.  Penalty is 17,000 Hryvnia if caught out of quarantine.  Seems like Ukraine government will keep extending that 3 weeks at a time.  My understanding is there are no commercial flights allowed at this time.   We have tickets purchased long ago for a June return to Ukraine and are not optimistic that will happen.  

 

All foreigners without residence permits are barred from entering Ukraine.  Starting April 6, all travelers, both Ukrainian citizens and foreigners, arriving in Ukraine will be required to undergo a 14-day supervised quarantine period.  Not sure what that exactly means.

Edited April 25, 2020 by gregcrs2

[mikefromNJ 5]

I am usc, my son is usc thru crba,
my fiance was at the last step to schedule k1-interview at the embassy and corona outbreak came. 

I really need to go back to Ukraine, I want to be with them at this time of pandemic. 

[gregcrs2 1,778]

Just now, mikefromNJ said:

I am usc, my son is usc thru crba,
my fiance was at the last step to schedule k1-interview at the embassy and corona outbreak came. 

I really need to go back to Ukraine, I want to be with them at this time of pandemic. 

I understand your desire but do you have a residence permit?  Unless they change that requirement, even though I am a US citizen husband married to a Ukrainian citizen, I cannot get into Ukraine.  

[igoyougoduke 1,656]

6 minutes ago, mikefromNJ said:

I am usc, my son is usc thru crba,
my fiance was at the last step to schedule k1-interview at the embassy and corona outbreak came. 

I really need to go back to Ukraine, I want to be with them at this time of pandemic. 

if ukraine is allowing foreigners to enter i dont see an issue if you can find flights and get to the border. 

[mikefromNJ 5]

1 minute ago, gregcrs2 said:

I understand your desire but do you have a residence permit?  Unless they change that requirement, even though I am a US citizen husband married to a Ukrainian citizen, I cannot get into Ukraine.  

I have nothing of legal status for ukraine. I am just a tourist. 

[gregcrs2 1,778]

4 minutes ago, Donald120383 said:

if ukraine is allowing foreigners to enter i dont see an issue if you can find flights and get to the border. 

Only foreigners having a residency permit are allowed to enter Ukraine at this time.

[gregcrs2 1,778]

Here's a link that may be helpful.  Current as of yesterday and hopefully it is updated as things change.  https://ua.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/

Will post a follow-up if we notice any changes as we also want to go to Ukraine in June.

Edited April 25, 2020 by gregcrs2

[GP1977 288]

On 4/25/2020 at 2:55 PM, gregcrs2 said:

It's currently a voluntary 14 day quarantine and for now remains in effect until May 11.  Penalty is 17,000 Hryvnia if caught out of quarantine.  Seems like Ukraine government will keep extending that 3 weeks at a time.  My understanding is there are no commercial flights allowed at this time.   We have tickets purchased long ago for a June return to Ukraine and are not optimistic that will happen.  

 

All foreigners without residence permits are barred from entering Ukraine.  Starting April 6, all travelers, both Ukrainian citizens and foreigners, arriving in Ukraine will be required to undergo a 14-day supervised quarantine period.  Not sure what that exactly means.

It;s my understanding that its a mandatory quarantine when one enters Ukraine.  Of course, you can only enter if you are Ukrainian or have a valid resident permit.  They were putting people up at the Kozatskiy hotel and my wife told me she read a story how some people were forced under quarantine and they did not want to stay there so they "escaped" from the hotel in which there were quarantined.

 

[gregcrs2 1,778]

14 hours ago, GP1977 said:

It;s my understanding that its a mandatory quarantine when one enters Ukraine.  Of course, you can only enter if you are Ukrainian or have a valid resident permit.  They were putting people up at the Kozatskiy hotel and my wife told me she read a story how some people were forced under quarantine and they did not want to stay there so they "escaped" from the hotel in which there were quarantined.

 

There is no such thing as a mandatory quarantine currently in Ukraine.  They were not "putting up" people at the mentioned hotel.  They were trying to quarantine them in the hotel but the government would not pay for the hotel/food expenses.  At first some people "escaped" from what is now considered an illegal detainment.  There were some legal types who were being detained and proved they could not be detained without proper legislation.  Everyone was released but required to sign a statement acknowledging they would comply with voluntary quarantine and that they would be fined if caught out of quarantine and if multiple violations occurred, they could face imprisonment.  

[GP1977 288]

3 minutes ago, gregcrs2 said:

There is no such thing as a mandatory quarantine currently in Ukraine.  They were not "putting up" people at the mentioned hotel.  They were trying to quarantine them in the hotel but the government would not pay for the hotel/food expenses.  At first some people "escaped" from what is now considered an illegal detainment.  There were some legal types who were being detained and proved they could not be detained without proper legislation.  Everyone was released but required to sign a statement acknowledging they would comply with voluntary quarantine and that they would be fined if caught out of quarantine and if multiple violations occurred, they could face imprisonment.  

Can you cite your source for the voluntary quarantine please? The US Embassy says its a supervised quarantine.

 

 

  The US embassy in Kyiv is my source and the notice is dated April 27th 2020 and it says the following:

https://ua.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/

Entry and Exit Requirements:

• All scheduled commercial international passenger services, including flights, trains and passenger buses to and from Ukraine are currently suspended.  Airlines, including Ukraine International Airlines, have conducted repatriation flights on a rolling basis, with unpredictable schedules.
• All foreigners without residence permits are barred from entering Ukraine.
• Starting April 6, all travelers, both Ukrainian citizens and foreigners, arriving in Ukraine will be required to undergo a 14-day supervised quarantine period.

[gregcrs2 1,778]

10 minutes ago, GP1977 said:

Can you cite your source for the voluntary quarantine please? The US Embassy says its a supervised quarantine.

 

 

  The US embassy in Kyiv is my source and the notice is dated April 27th 2020 and it says the following:

https://ua.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/

Entry and Exit Requirements:

• All scheduled commercial international passenger services, including flights, trains and passenger buses to and from Ukraine are currently suspended.  Airlines, including Ukraine International Airlines, have conducted repatriation flights on a rolling basis, with unpredictable schedules.
• All foreigners without residence permits are barred from entering Ukraine.
• Starting April 6, all travelers, both Ukrainian citizens and foreigners, arriving in Ukraine will be required to undergo a 14-day supervised quarantine period.

Yes, it's "supervised quarantine" but there is an open question what that really means.    The point was trying to make is that they cannot force you to be detained into a hotel for 14 days quarantine as doing something like that would be required to be approved through legislation.  If you are interested in more reading about quarantine in Ukraine:  https://covid19.gov.ua/karantynni-zakhody.  As usual, Ukrainian laws/rules are subject to interpretation and constantly changing.    

[GP1977 288]

1 minute ago, gregcrs2 said:

Yes, it's "supervised quarantine" but there is an open question what that really means.    The point was trying to make is that they cannot force you to be detained into a hotel for 14 days quarantine as doing something like that would be required to be approved through legislation.  If you are interested in more reading about quarantine in Ukraine:  https://covid19.gov.ua/karantynni-zakhody.  As usual, Ukrainian laws/rules are subject to interpretation and constantly changing.    

Interestingly enough they have approved it through legislation.

 

https://zakon.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/211-2020-п/ed20200404

 

5. Determine that mandatory admission to the observatories (isolators), which are determined by the regional, Kyiv city state administrations, are subject to:

persons who have declared voluntary hospitalization to an observatory (isolator) due to the inability to comply with the requirements of self-isolation;

persons who have twice violated the conditions of self-isolation (except for the persons defined in the fourth paragraph of paragraph 4 of this resolution);

persons who have had contact with patients or who have signs of infection with COVID-19 and refuse to undergo a medical examination at the direction of a physician;

persons crossing the state border (except for persons who are employees of diplomatic missions and consular posts of foreign countries, representations of official international missions, organizations accredited in Ukraine and their families; drivers and crew members of cargo vehicles, members of air crews and crews marine, river vessels, members of train and locomotive crews, unless there is reason to believe that they were in contact with a COVID-19 patient);

persons entering from temporarily occupied territories in Donetsk and Lugansk regions, the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and Sevastopol through checkpoints of entry into and exit from the temporarily occupied territory (except for members of the Mission of the International Committee of the Red Cross of Ukraine) diplomatic missions, in particular those monitoring the situation and delivering humanitarian aid to populations living in the temporarily occupied territories of Donetsk and Luhansk regions, the Autonomous Republic Crimea and Sevastopol unless there is reason to believe that they were in contact with a COVID-19 patient).

List of persons who are employees of diplomatic missions and consular offices of foreign countries, representations of international organizations in Ukraine, persons belonging to a diplomatic corps accredited in Ukraine, other relevant persons of international organizations, which are not subject to mandatory hospitalization to observatories (isolators) , determined by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

The observation period is 14 days.

Children under 12 years of age are to be admitted to an observatory (isolator) with one of their parents, adoptive parents, guardians, guardians, foster parents, caregivers, other persons in accordance with the law.

Hospitalization to the observatories and / or isolators of the persons identified in this paragraph shall be provided within the competence of the Ministry of Infrastructure, the Ministry of Community and Territorial Development and the Ministry of Health.

A person with COVID-19 disease is subject to compulsory medical examination, which may result in self-isolation.

[gregcrs2 1,778]

It doesn't help the OP, but  the restrictions wording has changed  where previously all foreigners needed a resident permit to enter Ukraine to this:  All foreigners without residence permits are barred from entering Ukraine, except spouses of Ukrainian citizens.  

[gregcrs2 1,778]

Just a quick update.  We have tickets to return to Kiev on LOT Polish airlines in June.  We were notified today that our flight has been canceled.  LOT international flights were previously canceled until May 31.  Now all LOT international flights are cancelled until June 14th.   We previously had tickets on Turkish Airlines in April but that was also cancelled.