28 Million Mail-In Ballots Went Missing in Last Four Elections

[Dashinka 24,635]

32 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

Lost in the mail?  Doubtful with a pre-addressed envelope. Do you think the mail service is that broken?

And even so it would be random for all voters and not selective to influence elections. Those letters are pilling up and the post office will eventually get it to the addressee or return to sender.

 

Widespread malfeasance inside election operations headquarters? Impossible given the audit operations states have. And why would one party be more or less corrupt?

 

Even so over 4 years? Every tax levy, every local improvement vote, , off year voting? 70% of those ballots had nothing to do with Presidential elections. 

 

 

Here is the plausible and most likely factual explanation: they chose not to vote, just like the 40-70 %of non mailing ballots. Or they chose to go to the election poll instead. 

 

 

Studies show higher participation with mail in voting. That is a positive social benefit.

 

And this is why they find boxes of absentee ballots in someone’s trunk.  Btw, I believe the study was just on the four general elections.  Overall, I am fine with mail in voting as long as vote harvesting is not allowed.

[Suze1 366]

hmmm...How broken could the mail system be?....

 

hmmm...let's just ponder that for a moment.

 

1) Would you have any hesitation putting cash in an envelope - a significant amount of cash - placing a stamp on it, and dropping it in the mail? For like your mortgage, or rent, or kid's tuition?

2) Would USCIS feel comfortable letting you send in any and all documents by mail, no problems asked, for ANY and ALL of their services?

3) If USPS IS actually de-funded....would that not matter in the least?

4) Possibly millions of ballots not opened or counted each election?

5) Need a census? Mail me the form.  If it is not returned to you,  it must be because either I am dead or homeless with no forwarding MAIL address. No problem.

 

...hmmmm.....What could possibly go wrong with that...times 150 million people.

Edited April 24, 2020 by Suze1

[Suze1 366]

All-Mail Elections (aka Vote-By-Mail)

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/all-mail-elections.aspx

[Suze1 366]

For me....

Get yourself a reliable document of identification. A REAL ID.

Show up to vote.

Vote.

Triple check that everybody's vote is accurately recorded.

Tally every vote.

And you'll have your winner.

Simple.

--- Democracy - Pure and Simple ---

 

Edited April 24, 2020 by Suze1

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

6 hours ago, 90DayFinancier said:

I don't get the concern. Elections sends serialized ballots to the registered voter, at that address. If the ballot never reached the voter, if the voter doesn't return the ballot, or forgets to stamp the ballot, there is no vote tallied. 

 

It's not like anything can be done with that ballot. It's not a blank check to vote in a future election, it is a piece of paper.

 

What is the worry?

So you're ok with your vote not being counted?  That seems very weird to me.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

5 hours ago, 90DayFinancier said:

No. A ballot after election date is worthless.

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[Voice of Reason 10,298]

4 hours ago, Suze1 said:

hmmm...How broken could the mail system be?....

 

hmmm...let's just ponder that for a moment.

 

1) Would you have any hesitation putting cash in an envelope - a significant amount of cash - placing a stamp on it, and dropping it in the mail? For like your mortgage, or rent, or kid's tuition?

2) Would USCIS feel comfortable letting you send in any and all documents by mail, no problems asked, for ANY and ALL of their services?

3) If USPS IS actually de-funded....would that not matter in the least?

4) Possibly millions of ballots not opened or counted each election?

5) Need a census? Mail me the form.  If it is not returned to you,  it must be because either I am dead or homeless with no forwarding MAIL address. No problem.

 

...hmmmm.....What could possibly go wrong with that...times 150 million people.

Post of THE YEAR, right here.  Thank you!!

[90DayFinancier 910]

43 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

So you're ok with your vote not being counted?  That seems very weird to me.

Fallacy, we were never showed where any vote was not counted from mail in ballots. I go on facts , not paranoia.

[90DayFinancier 910]

5 hours ago, Dashinka said:

And this is why they find boxes of absentee ballots in someone’s trunk.  Btw, I believe the study was just on the four general elections.  Overall, I am fine with mail in voting as long as vote harvesting is not allowed.

How did a ballot, sent to someone's residence, filled out, stamped and dropped in a mailbox wind up in a box with other ballots, in the back of someone's car? Where and when did this occur?

 

 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

8 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

Fallacy, we were never showed where any vote was not counted from mail in ballots. I go on facts , not paranoia.

You REALLY need to learn to read what you post.  

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

7 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

How did a ballot, sent to someone's residence, filled out, stamped and dropped in a mailbox wind up in a box with other ballots, in the back of someone's car? Where and when did this occur?

 

 

How does ANY voting fraud happen?

 

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/01/04/judicial-watch-wins-suit-california-forced-to-remove-up-to-1-5-million-inactive-voters-and-clean-up-its-rolls-709972 

1.5 MILLION registration issues, down from the previous 3 million. Just in one state.

[90DayFinancier 910]

1 hour ago, Voice of Reason said:

How does ANY voting fraud happen?

 

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/01/04/judicial-watch-wins-suit-california-forced-to-remove-up-to-1-5-million-inactive-voters-and-clean-up-its-rolls-709972 

1.5 MILLION registration issues, down from the previous 3 million. Just in one state.

What does that have to do with mail in ballots?

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

You won't get it.  Going to bed, can't waste my time relating the issues with voting methods and potential fraudulent votes.

[Dashinka 24,635]

10 hours ago, 90DayFinancier said:

How did a ballot, sent to someone's residence, filled out, stamped and dropped in a mailbox wind up in a box with other ballots, in the back of someone's car? Where and when did this occur?

 

 

Ask Al Franken.  The other way is through vote harvesting, but in those cases, it is questionable if the person voted of their own free will, or by direction of a political operative.

[Ban Hammer 13,429]

10 hours ago, 90DayFinancier said:

How did a ballot, sent to someone's residence, filled out, stamped and dropped in a mailbox wind up in a box with other ballots, in the back of someone's car? Where and when did this occur?

 

 

i guess you never heard of mail being stolen from mailboxes?  happens around here, usually around the first of the month for some reason...........