Immigration Suspension Executive Order - MEGA THREAD

[nevermind_us 7]

4 minutes ago, LeoUSA said:

I could not find the part mentioning that spouses are exempted. Can you guide me please?

It says

 

"Refugees and asylum seekers would not be affected by the order, nor would spouses and children of U.S. citizens or permanent residents."

[SalishSea 17,970]

21 minutes ago, SRlove said:

I’m Canadian citizen with employment authorization/advance parole and want to visit my family back home for few weeks, but I’m wondering if there would restriction coming back to my American husband?

 

Does anyone know if any of these recent restrictions will affect my traveling and/or AOS application profess(still pending to schedule interview).

 

Well, as @JonSeattle pointed out, all non-essential travel is currently barred from land crossings.  I would think visiting relatives is included, unless it is an emergency.

 

I believe the 'essential' crossings they are allowing are primarily job and commerce-related.

[mandsophia 160]

6 minutes ago, apellica said:

I saw the same thing.  However, I believe spouses/fiances usually fall in the same category when it comes to immigration.

hopefully this is the case, that immediate family members are exempt form this eg family based visas are not impacted 

[Sweetdreaming 397]

4 minutes ago, Ela S. said:

No they don’t. Or else I would be able to travel with my K-1 right now. I would be exempt from the European travel ban, but I’m not. Spouses in the other hand, are exempt from the ban.

agreed, a fiance is a potential family member, a spouse IS a family member, the actual marriage matters in this respect.

[nevermind_us 7]

To everyone asking about fiancé visas - sorry in my hurry to post this I assumed it said fiancé. While it doesn't explicitly say that I think this looks a bit hopeful for both fiance and spousal visas. The larger point is around stopping work-related visas. Here's a tweet by a State Dept reporter for Bloomberg on the matter. 
 

https://mobile.twitter.com/nwadhams

[apellica 80]

6 minutes ago, Ela S. said:

No they don’t. Or else I would be able to travel with my K-1 right now. I would be exempt from the European travel ban, but I’m not. Spouses in the other hand, are exempt from the ban.

My bad, you are right.  That sucks

[SalishSea 17,970]

14 minutes ago, Mounat02 said:

I would speculate the executive order will cast a wide net and be as vague as possible.

Perhaps in draft form.  But I would think Trump's handlers and counsel would actually direct it to be pretty specific, if USCIS, DOS, ICE etc are expected to enforce it.

[B&C2017 123]

3 hours ago, sia82 said:

 

The pandemic is here to stay until we get a vaccine (12-18 months). Social distancing will be the new norm for quite a long time.

 

It isn't just restaurants and travel related jobs. Plenty of other industries are getting hit real bad. Plenty of small businesses are close to bankruptcy. My husband works in one of those "safe" finance jobs and his company is talking about putting some of the people on furlough (white collar jobs, some of them on h1b visas).  Economy doesn't just bounce back that quick.

 

 

 

Oh yeah, for sure. But we can‘t keep all of this on lockdown forever or the economy will be destroyed. I just wish they would work on getting the numbers somewhat accurate by performing wide spread antibody testing. The true number is soooo much higher.

 

And yes, it‘s not just the categories I mentioned, but I just meant to say that out of the 22 Mio. There is a big number that will have jobs again. I feel very sorry for all the small businesses and I hope that they can open soon or get some sort of support from the government.

 

 

[SalishSea 17,970]

7 minutes ago, nevermind_us said:

To everyone asking about fiancé visas - sorry in my hurry to post this I assumed it said fiancé. While it doesn't explicitly say that I think this looks a bit hopeful for both fiance and spousal visas. The larger point is around stopping work-related visas. Here's a tweet by a State Dept reporter for Bloomberg on the matter. 
 

https://mobile.twitter.com/nwadhams

If I'm not mistaken, fiancees of USCs for immigration purposes are not classified as 'relatives' or 'immediate relatives,' which may mean K-1s will be excluded.

[Mounat02 63]

5 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

Perhaps in draft form.  But I would think Trump's handlers and counsel would actually direct it to be pretty specific, if USCIS, DOS, ICE etc are expected to enforce it.

No need to worry about enforcement since the system is virtually at a standstill anyway. This, I believe, is red meat and mostly for talking points. If it's a 90-day EO, then that's when things were hoped to have returned to normal anyway. It's designed, again, in my view, to get the ACLUs and other civil liberties and immigration advocates panties' tied in a knot and have maximum media exposure. Not to mention get tied up in the courts and stay in the forefront through election cycle.

 

That's my hope anyway.

Edited April 21, 2020 by Mounat02

[Mikepeter 21]

24 minutes ago, nevermind_us said:

Folks here's a Bloomberg scoop on the draft order. Looks like spouses, fiances, etc. will be exempt!!

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-21/trump-says-he-ll-suspend-immigration-to-u-s-over-virus-concerns

Do you think this will apply also on the parents of US citizens?! 

[Unlockable 7,315]

7 minutes ago, Mikepeter said:

Do you think this will apply also on the parents of US citizens?! 

We don't know the details of who would be included or excluded. But if I were to guess i would say that the exceptions would be limited to spouses and minor children. And maybe fiances.

 

Parents and siblings would likely have to wait until this is over. Again, this is just a guess. We will have to wait and see.

Edited April 21, 2020 by Unlockable

[Sweetdreaming 397]

2 minutes ago, Unlockable said:

We don't know the details of who would be included or excluded. But if I were to guess i would say that the exceptions would be limited to spouses and minor children. And maybe fiances.

 

Parents and siblings would likely have to wait until this is over. Again, this is just a guess. We will have to wait and see.

i think parents may be ok, as theyre under "immediate family relative" tier.

[GregandNatty 195]

1 hour ago, Jorgedig said:

We have yet to see whether COVID19 testing or antibody titers will be added to the GC medical exam requirements.

If you really look at the antibody testing, it isn't that good at the individual level.

 

Example:  Let's say you have a test that is 98% accurate and 1% of people actually have had covid-19.   For 100,000 people, 1,000 people have had covid 19.  At 98% accuracy, the test will report a false positive on the 99,000 people that haven't had it of 1,980 people.  The false positives are more than the true positives.   You have to then also add the actual positives,  so the testing will say 2,980 people have had Covid-19 when in fact only 1,000 people have had it.   At best, this will just give us an idea of trends.   For the tests to be reliable at the individual level, the error needs to be in the tenths or hundredths of a percent.    We may never have this.

 

Edited April 21, 2020 by GregandNatty

[James and Vanessa 15]

If K-1 is not excluded, there is going to be a tidal wave of CR-1 applications heading towards a process which already takes longer than the fiance option as many will look to secure their marriage even off-shore in case anything like this happens again.