Immigration Suspension Executive Order - MEGA THREAD

[jaysaldi 213]

2 minutes ago, Quarknase said:

We also have the most cases here, maybe considering to ban Americans from going elsewhere would be the better tactic lol. 

We have fewer cases per capita than many countries.

[cd37 229]

1 minute ago, Quarknase said:

We also have the most cases here, maybe considering to ban Americans from going elsewhere would be the better tactic lol. Sorry. I know many are hurt and afraid in this threat. But I can only laugh about the absurdity

That is already in place, few countries already banned americans from entering their country. Every country is trying to protect their citizens.

[Mr.Fry 6]

My advice, everyone keep calm and just sit it out. Consular services were already suspended so immigration wasn't going anywhere. Immigration is a privilege, remember that. Many of us have been separated for a while or, like us have been living outside of the states and wanting to go back (like my wife). Right now even the passport application for our, natural born citizen son isn't even getting processed so we were stuck to begin with. Once the EO has been signed we'll know more and then we can consider mass panic 🙃

[Quarknase 1,072]

1 minute ago, Mr.Fry said:

My advice, everyone keep calm and just sit it out. Consular services were already suspended so immigration wasn't going anywhere. Immigration is a privilege, remember that. Many of us have been separated for a while or, like us have been living outside of the states and wanting to go back (like my wife). Right now even the passport application for our, natural born citizen son isn't even getting processed so we were stuck to begin with. Once the EO has been signed we'll know more and then we can consider mass panic 🙃

This!

[cd37 229]

1 minute ago, Mr.Fry said:

My advice, everyone keep calm and just sit it out. Consular services were already suspended so immigration wasn't going anywhere. Immigration is a privilege, remember that. Many of us have been separated for a while or, like us have been living outside of the states and wanting to go back (like my wife). Right now even the passport application for our, natural born citizen son isn't even getting processed so we were stuck to begin with. Once the EO has been signed we'll know more and then we can consider mass panic 🙃

Exactly.

[optimistic23 49]

On 4/20/2020 at 12:16 AM, geowrian said:

No movement on fiancé or spousal visas appears to even be on the table at this time. Changes to other categories have been brought up, but they have all been DOA...getting both houses and the POTUS to agree on immigration just isn’t realistic anytime soon.

I thought the executive order doesn’t need senate or congress approval? 
This is simply scapegoating but I’m afraid he could sign that as soon as they draft the order and whatever legal issues will be debated on thereafter and it’s gonna be one messy slow process. Absolutely childish move but not surprising from this administration.

[vincentlina 74]

1 minute ago, optimistic23 said:

I thought the executive order doesn’t need senate or congress approval? 
This is simply scapegoating but I’m afraid he could sign that as soon as they draft the order and whatever legal issues will be debated on thereafter and it’s gonna be one messy slow process. Absolutely childish move but not surprising from this administration.

This is correct. Under his new elevated "powers" because of the pandemic, he can sign EO into action (supposed to be as soon as today, Tuesday, 21) and it will not be challenged.

[geowrian 22,337]

2 minutes ago, optimistic23 said:

I thought the executive order doesn’t need senate or congress approval? 
This is simply scapegoating but I’m afraid he could sign that as soon as they draft the order and whatever legal issues will be debated on thereafter and it’s gonna be one messy slow process. Absolutely childish move but not surprising from this administration.

Correct, EOs do not.

I have no idea why, but the comment you quoted used to be on another thread. It looks like it got merged into this thread, but the original post did not. Note the timing - early morning yesterday. This EO was announced only hours ago.

The issue raised in that thread was about a report of opinions to modify immigration law and restrict fiance or spousal visas, alongside other types of visas. It was not about an EO to suspend immigration.

[HeatDeath 430]

2 minutes ago, vincentlina said:

This is correct. Under his new elevated "powers" because of the pandemic, he can sign EO into action (supposed to be as soon as today, Tuesday, 21) and it will not be challenged.

It probably couldn't be challenged anyways. We've had 20+ years of massive expansion of the powers of the Executive, enthusiastically endorsed by both sides of the aisle.

Because the one thing both parties agree on is having enormous unchallenged executive power is really awesome when your party is in the White House.

It's like they genuinely believe the other party will never win again or something.

[SilverLake 40]

8 minutes ago, optimistic23 said:

I thought the executive order doesn’t need senate or congress approval? 
This is simply scapegoating but I’m afraid he could sign that as soon as they draft the order and whatever legal issues will be debated on thereafter and it’s gonna be one messy slow process. Absolutely childish move but not surprising from this administration.

“Congress has the power to overturn an executive order by passing legislation that invalidates it. ... In the case of the former, the president retains the power to veto such a decision; however, the Congress may override a veto with a two-thirds majority to end an executive order.”

 

That being said, I do believe this order will be carried out, especially with the current emergency in the U.S.

[N400NYC 380]

15 minutes ago, vincentlina said:

Actually, I'm not panicking, I'm actually not surprised at the level of depravity this man is willing to go to. Thank goodness he doesn't band Americans from leaving as this is exactly what I planning on doing (depending on how restrictive the EO is), as I can't wait another year (beyond the 2+ already) or more to reunite with my family.

Though currently it’s near imposible for anyone without a passport to get one. I’m stuck in that particular mess as well - they have my citizenship certificate and no idea as to when I will actually get the passport. Some who paid for expedited service (while that was still an option) have been waiting 8 weeks.  

[Duke & Marie 1,389]

2 minutes ago, SilverLake said:

“Congress has the power to overturn an executive order by passing legislation that invalidates it. ... In the case of the former, the president retains the power to veto such a decision; however, the Congress may override a veto with a two-thirds majority to end an executive order.”

 

That being said, I do believe this order will be carried out, especially with the current emergency in the U.S.

Title 42 of the U.S. Code enables the president to halt immigration for health reasons, while a 2018 U.S. Supreme Court decision upholding his travel ban gives him legal precedent

[Lskifghj 53]

Is the Europe travel ban already lifted? It was supposed to be 3/12/2029 for 30 days till 4/12/2020. My parents have IR-5 visa in passport but are not in US yet. Are they considered permanent residents yet or not yet as they have not cleared port of entry officer yet, they do not have physical green cards yet. If travel ban is lifted, could they still fly in from Germany now?

Edited April 21, 2020 by Lskifghj

[Duke & Marie 1,389]

1 minute ago, Lskifghj said:

Is the Europe travel ban already lifted? It was supposed to be 3/12/2029 for 39 days till 4/12/2020. My parents have IR-5 visa in passport but are not in US yet. Are they considered permanent residents yet or not yet as they have not cleared port of entry officer yet, they do not have physical green cards yet. If travel ban is lifted, could they still fly in from Germany now?

No, they have to enter to be LPR

[Lskifghj 53]

Just now, Duke & Marie said:

No, they have to enter to be LPR

Ok thanks. Does anyone know if the Europe travel ban is currently lifted right now?