Immigration Suspension Executive Order - MEGA THREAD

[millefleur 5,047]

Just now, N400NYC said:

Trump says he will issue order to suspend immigration during coronavirus crisis, closing off the United States to a new extreme

 

“For Trump’s executive order to work, it would have to direct the State Department and U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services to immediately stop the issuance of immigration visas. Such a move appears to have no modern precedent and would potentially leave the fiancees, children and other close relatives of U.S. citizens in limbo.”

Article has a paywall. That's helpful info though. Thanks for sharing.

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43 minutes ago, jaysaldi said:

The guy hates family based "chain" immigration, we know that.

The guy married three wives, two of which (including current) are foreign-born immigrants.

[NickyB 5]

This has made me physically ill. 

Temporary or not... how long is temporary? 
 

Before I met my fiance, I was single since 2012. Never really was ready to see anyone due to trauma and heart break. 
I FINALLY met the love of my life last year. 

Then finding out about all the extra scrutiny and higher bars we have to jump over... mentally accepting everything. 

We finally decide when to make an official proposal in France before filing the paperwork. 

Then we found out of all the hoops, scrutiny, and wait times... fine. 

Then my travel plans got canceled... fine 

Then the virus happened, can't collect necessary documents, we will have to wait till quarantine restrictions are lifted in our countries... fine
Now this? I mean COME ON, can we get a freaking break?  

 

I really hope this gets pushed back, I refuse to believe our country can let this man just be... flat out cruel. 

[Faisal1 235]

Just now, designguy said:

Huh how does that confer the right for a USC to immigrate a relative. I think you're mistaken

Maybe i am.. i can be mistaken  but i followed some cases proceeding and court did argue on this with  

[Just Paul 4,595]

2 minutes ago, MKY said:

I don’t know how this immigration suspension is going to affect us and I’m beyond distressed.

Once the Executive Order is signed we all know what is going on.   Until then everyone is just guessing.

[HeatDeath 430]

3 minutes ago, Faisal1 said:

Maybe i am.. i can be mistaken  but i followed some cases proceeding and court did argue on this with  

I believe you are mistaken.

 

American citizens have an inalienable right to petition the government. That includes petitions for immigration benefits for relatives.

 

The US government is under no obligation whatsoever to grant immigration benefits [or any other petition] to anybody, whether they're related to a  US citizen or not.

 

And that legal principle you posted relates to local states overriding the federal government, it has nothing whatsoever to do with what the Federal government does under it's own authority. And all immigration law is federal.

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[cd37 229]

12 minutes ago, N400NYC said:

The person who created FEAR is Donald Trump. 

Good luck, we will discuss when and if  details are out.

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54 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

Folks, this infernal immigration system is traumatic at the best of times.

Working oneself into a frenzy over something that hasn't happened yet is counterproductive.

 

Just like the current lockdowns, any policy enacted now won't last forever.

The country -- and the world -- is in chaos.  Even if you could enter, your country might not let you out.

The greatest economic boom in U.S. history was reversed in just a couple of months.

The President's goal (as a lifelong businessman) is reopening and recovery.

Hard though it is, be patient.

One boon might be that USCIS finally catches up on AOS & ROC petitions that have languished for months.

 

That is what I was thinking. It could inadvertently speed up ROC, naturalization or even AOS.  

[cbro20 53]

Unsolicited. My thoughts, after letting this news settle for a few hours.

 

(1) The word “temporary” is promising. Even in the unlikely event of a worst-case scenario, where Trump bans all immigration, and stops green card processing, the ban will be lifted at some point.

 

(2) In all likelihood, Trump’s order will apply to specific categories of immigrants, rather than a total immigration ban. He specifically mentions employment in his tweet, and is therefore likely to curtail the ban to green card lotteries, employment sponsored visas, etc. 

 

(3) Trump often tweets overly broad statements that are later refined. He exaggerates everything, and you can’t take him literally. Case in point: Muslim ban, or, as recent as the “total ban on travel from Europe,”—the administration never even clarified that American citizens could return home.

 

(4) The Courts would likely block any outright ban on family-based immigration into the US, and bog down the order in litigation.

 

(5) In-person interviews and services at USCIS, and embassies abroad, are currently suspended anyway. This order could be seen as a codification of what‘s already happening in practice, anyway, so that Trump appeals to his base and comes across as being proactive in stopping COVID.

 

(6) If I’m wrong about 1-6, use it as an excuse to leave this terrible country for greener pastures, and meet your SO somewhere else?
 

My guess is that applications for AOS that are currently being processed will be adjudicated, albeit delayed. Also, my intuition is that the order will direct USCIS to stop processing applications that are received on a certain date. 
 

Ultimately, I would recommend patience, if you have filed for AOS, to see the exact wording of the order, or a mad-dash to file for AOS if you’re here on a K1, even though it may not be necessary. In the end, I think most everyone will still get the benefit they’re seeking, but there might be delays—focus on the word temporary.
 

Best wishes to everyone—it’s a cruel method from the administration to release this news, and add more fuel to the fire of a world in complete chaos.

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[Quarknase 1,072]

Oiii - woke up to the news and just read through the entire thread. I feel for the WH staff who's probably already debating to call out sick in the morning. I wouldn't want to clean up this mess lol...

 

Besides immigration being on hold already, there are some things that come to mind

- How many jobs would he put at stake with this? USCIS, DOS - would they be furloughed?

- What negative impact would this have on the economy? Work visas are mainly given to workers that are needed. Something in me doesn't believe that his gun fetishs currently out blocking ambulance entries in their fight for "freedom" will be able to fill the jobs that a halt on work visas would leave available.

- Does he know that work visas are non-immigrant visas?

- Is he fighting to OPEN the country, or to CLOSE it? I'm confused 🥴But yeah, LIBERATE [fill in your state, unless you live in NY, CA, or similar]

 

 

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13 minutes ago, MKY said:

I live abroad from my husband. Hes a US citizen and filed the I-130 for me. We got approval from USCIS and our case is currently at the NVC. I don’t know how this immigration suspension is going to affect us and I’m beyond distressed. It’s been 6 months without him. I don’t know how long I can take this 

I am in the exact same situation right now ): they’re not doing interviews right now so what’s going to happen to us? we’ve been waiting so long for this it’s heart breaking, I feel for you

[Faisal1 235]

3 minutes ago, HeatDeath said:

I believe you are mistaken.

 

American citizens have an inalienable right to petition the government. That includes petitions for immigration benefits for relatives.

 

The US government is under no obligation whatsoever to grant immigration benefits [or any other petition] to anybody, whether they're related to a  US citizen or not.

 

And that legal principle you posted relates to local states overriding the federal government, it has nothing whatsoever to do with what the Federal government does under it's own authority. And all immigration law is federal.

Maybe.. 

 

4 minutes ago, HeatDeath said:

I believe you are mistaken.

 

American citizens have an inalienable right to petition the government. That includes petitions for immigration benefits for relatives.

 

The US government is under no obligation whatsoever to grant immigration benefits [or any other petition] to anybody, whether they're related to a  US citizen or not.

 

And that legal principle you posted relates to local states overriding the federal government, it has nothing whatsoever to do with what the Federal government does under it's own authority. And all immigration law is federal.

First of i am not talking about  Any individual and second i am not talking about any state law etc . 
 

Also I am not going to use my energy on this constitutional discussion trying to explain. 
 I think  we all should wait for tomorrow   Executive order.. 

 

 hope for the best and  be happy

[OhSoFaizy 12]

1 hour ago, CGs_Mother said:

Thanks. I'm one of the banned people. My husband is in Houston and I'm in Toronto having just filed the I-130 application in January. From the NYT article, it sounds like they won't process my application at all now. If it's suspended for a few weeks, fine. If all of us foreign resident spouses who are in the application process for I-130s are going to be denied simply because of an executive order, where do we end up? I know we have to wait until the morning, but this is just...

I am exactly in the same boat!

 

My wife lives in Houston (Missouri city) and I live in downtown Toronto. We just received our NOA2 and are now filing for NVC processing but are waiting for finger printing services to reopen so I can get my police certificate. 

 

I hope everything works out for us. 

[vincentlina 74]

1 hour ago, laylalex said:

It's just cruel. We have a legal path to bring our loved ones here. We follow the path. We do everything they tell us to do, meet all the challenges, and then this guy thinks "hey, what will get me reelected?" and we're all put up like sacrificial lambs? This is not right, and it's NOT American.

"it's NOT American" ... Ohh but it is! This is EXACTLY American. Don't you see he consistently gets 40%-45% of Americans behind him (regardless of what he does -- no matter how vile)? Wana guess how many Americans that percentage support translates to?