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Patrick Griffin, Dr. Staley’s lawyer, said Friday night that his client was following the example of the executive branch of government, which he said was now unfairly prosecuting him.

 


“The same executive branch that has been touting these two medications for weeks has now turned around and criminally charged an Iraq veteran, Dr. Staley, no criminal record, for doing exactly the same thing that the administration’s been doing this whole time,” he said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/17/us/coronavirus-treatment-pack-jennings-ryan-staley.html

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When did anyone in the administration including President Trump ever say HCQ was a 100% cure?

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The same ones who made the couple eat the fish-tank cleaner!

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1 minute ago, TBoneTX said:

The same ones who made the couple eat the fish-tank cleaner!

I gave you an upvote haha. Not funny but dead on. I just feel like you like hahas better 

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Upvotes are no laughing matter!  Uh... or something...

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Just to be clear, the link IS good, but it's important to have a proper one that spells it out -- the one I provided was one I got from within the NYT app, which automatically makes shortened URLs when sharing links. Here is the full one:

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/17/us/coronavirus-treatment-pack-jennings-ryan-staley.html

 

I think it's foolish to believe that Trump was saying it's a cureall for COVID19. But the world is full of fools. That's why it's important to put information out there with CLEAR caveats that the drug is being explored as a possible cure. I think Trump has muddied the waters where it comes to the drug. Maybe it's just the way that he talks, but he hasn't been clear enough, in my opinion, that its use is still experimental. When he says things like "What do you have to lose?" (which he did say about it) it can ping things in people's brains.

 

Werds mean something, or so @Nature Boy 2.0 told me. So we need to use our werds carefully now and be more clear that the drug isn't a magic bullet.

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12 minutes ago, laylalex said:

it's just the way that he talks

This is one thing that some people still haven't gotten used to.

I didn't understand it either until someone observed, "He's from Queens," and then the light went on.

The Pres. speaks exactly like my two separate former colleagues from Queens did.

One has to interpret them figuratively, not literally.

Trying to interpret the Pres. literally is a recipe for misunderstanding.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Whether or not Trump claimed it's a cure (not sure he did,  the only thing I saw was him saying it showed promise, or was effective, or something close to that)... anyone who listens to a politician for medical advice is probably not the smartest person out there.  And even if someone BELIEVED Trump told them.it would cure them, they still have to get it prescribed by a physician, right?  (I mean, unless they have access to a pet store)

 

I cannot read the article because I don't subscribe to the NYT, but if the title is accurate, the doc deserves to be charged with fraud, because even simple people like us know it's nowhere NEAR 100% effective against covid.  Sounds like one of those idiot "experts" we are told we should believe in.

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1 hour ago, Steeleballz said:

   Leaving Trump out of it for a second, I'm glad they brought the hammer down on the doctor. These snake oil guys are popping up all over the place.

Sad to see that it's happening, but I agree, slap the fines on the idiots.  I mean, if someone is dying, and there appears to be no hope, by all means, give it a try.  They might be one of the lucky ones who need the jumpstart and it keeps them alive.

 

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