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2 minutes ago, thenewkid2020 said:

We haven’t got to the point yet when it comes to applying for the k1 visa. But my question is will it be smart to marry my partner in her country  first.then after a few months we marry turn around and apply for the k1 is this possible. 

 

 

If you marry first, then want to apply for a K-1 that is not allowed. The K-1 visa intent is that you come to the US, determine if the relationship will work and that you will be comfortable in the US to which you have 90 days to decided that. If you marry in your country, you need to apply for an IR-1/CR-1 visa.

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16 minutes ago, thenewkid2020 said:

We haven’t got to the point yet when it comes to applying for the k1 visa. But my question is will it be smart to marry my partner in her country  first.then after a few months we marry turn around and apply for the k1 is this possible. 

 

 

It is not smart if you want to do the K1. In fact, it can be classified as fraud.  And your case will be denied. You can't be married to anyone, anywhere in the world before you come to the US on a K1.

 

If getting married in another country is that important to you, then forget about the K1. Get married then file for the spousal visa instead.

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2 hours ago, thenewkid2020 said:

We haven’t got to the point yet when it comes to applying for the k1 visa. But my question is will it be smart to marry my partner in her country  first.then after a few months we marry turn around and apply for the k1 is this possible. 

 

 

How can you BOTH be free to marry, if you are married already... :unsure:     Sounds like you want a spouse visa

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The reason why I ask is because theirs times I thought about moving to another country. Like staying with her in her country for a year or two. and by being marry first to her I most likely  can  apply for temp residency in her county. Then turning around and doing the spouse visa I guess. I was trying to weight out the options. These times the K1 VISA Can be tricky they can denied you for any little detail. we are like 16 years apart in age . So I thought  showing marriage first will add the spouse visa more bonafide proof.

but I am thinking ahead cause I haven't propose yet lol.Especially now with this Virus travel bans I am stuck in the US For now and cant visit.

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1 minute ago, thenewkid2020 said:

These times the K1 VISA Can be tricky they can denied you for any little detail.

We don't see that here.....  Here is my comparison between a K-1 and a CR-1:

 

Every couple has their own priorities, and each couple must decide which visa is better for their situation.

K-1
    Slightly faster arrival in the US (currently about 5 months sooner)    
    More expensive than CR-1    
    Requires Adjustment of Status after marriage (expensive and requires a lot of paperwork)    
    Spouse can not leave the US until she/he receives approved Advance Parole (approx 5-6 months)    
    Spouse can not work until she/he receives EAD (approx 5-6 months)    
    Some people have had problems with driver licenses, Social Security cards, leases, bank account during this period    
    Spouse will not receive Green Card for many months after Adjustment of Status is filed.

  

CR-1
    Slightly slower arrival in the US (currently about 5 months later)

    Less expensive than K-1    
    No Adjustment of Status(I-485, I-131, I-765) required.    
    Spouse can immediately travel outside the US    
    Spouse is authorized to work immediately upon arrival.    
    Spouse receives Social Security Card and Green Card within 2 or 3 weeks after entering the US    
    Opening a bank account, getting a driver's license, etc. are very easily accomplished with GC, SS card, and passport.

    Spouse has legal permanent Resident status IMMEDIATELY upon entry to US.
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"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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***Topic moved to What Visa Do I Need*****  OP is looking at visa options....

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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4 hours ago, thenewkid2020 said:

The reason why I ask is because theirs times I thought about moving to another country. Like staying with her in her country for a year or two. and by being marry first to her I most likely  can  apply for temp residency in her county. Then turning around and doing the spouse visa I guess. I was trying to weight out the options. These times the K1 VISA Can be tricky they can denied you for any little detail. we are like 16 years apart in age . So I thought  showing marriage first will add the spouse visa more bonafide proof.

but I am thinking ahead cause I haven't propose yet lol.Especially now with this Virus travel bans I am stuck in the US For now and cant visit.

K1 and CR1 are totally 2 different routes and you can only chose one... If you marry then you don't qualify for k1. If you are not married you do not qualify for CR1 you can only pick one 

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5 hours ago, thenewkid2020 said:

I am thinking ahead cause I haven't propose yet lol

Propose first and get a yes.

 

A K1 refusal can not be appealed.  A spousal can be appealed.

 

16 year age gap isn't always a big deal.  There are many factors unique to the country.

 

Certainly marrying and living together is very helpful.  We met in one, married in another and lived in a 3rd before coming to the US.

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2 minutes ago, thenewkid2020 said:

Thanks Paul and marry so if  I get marry in another country not US, how long should I wait to do a spouse visa, 

 

File the I-130 as soon as you have the marriage certificate.

 

5 minutes ago, thenewkid2020 said:

Should I just marry and then spend a year or two in my partner foreign  country and then apply for spouse visa.

That's completely up to you guys and your financial situations.  People do it both ways.   What is important is that you have the bonafides.

March 2, 2018  Married In Hong Kong

April 30, 2018  Mary moves from the Philippines to Mexico, Husband has MX Permanent Residency

June 13, 2018 Mary receives Mexican Residency Card

June 15, 2018  I-130 DCF Appointment in Juarez  -  June 18, 2018  Approval E-Mail

August 2, 2018 Case Complete At Consulate

September 25, 2018 Interview in CDJ and Approved!

October 7, 2018 In the USA

October 27, 2018 Green Card received 

October 29, 2018 Applied for Social Security Card - November 5, 2018 Social Security Card received

November 6th, 2018 State ID Card Received, Applied for Global Entry - Feb 8,2019 Approved.

July 14, 2020 Removal of Conditions submitted by mail  July 12, 2021 Biometrics Completed

August 6, 2021 N-400 submitted by mail

September 7, 2021 I-751 Interview, Sept 8 Approved and Card Being Produced

October 21, 2021 N-400 Biometrics Completed  

November 30,2021  Interview, Approval and Oath

December 10, 2021 US Passport Issued

August 12, 2022 PHL Dual Nationality Re-established & Passport Approved 

April 6,2023 Legally Separated - Oh well

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