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Hardly news but....

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/coronavirus-wuhan-lab-china-compete-us-sources

 

 

 

Also you guys recall the story I posted a while back about the Harvard Professor arrested for taking payment from the Chinese to help a lab in Wuhan

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1 minute ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Hardly news but....

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/coronavirus-wuhan-lab-china-compete-us-sources

 

 

 

Also you guys recall the story I posted a while back about the Harvard Professor arrested for taking payment from the Chinese to help a lab in Wuhan

 

   Who are the sources?

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Harvard University Professor and Two Chinese Nationals Charged in Three Separate China Related Cases

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related

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1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Harvard University Professor and Two Chinese Nationals Charged in Three Separate China Related Cases

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related

Conspiracy and false claims surrounding Dr. Charles Lieber, China and COVID-19 coronavirus

https://www.wcvb.com/article/conspiracy-and-false-claims-surrounding-dr-charles-lieber-china-and-covid-19-coronavirus/32094143#

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4 minutes ago, laylalex said:

Conspiracy and false claims surrounding Dr. Charles Lieber, China and COVID-19 coronavirus

https://www.wcvb.com/article/conspiracy-and-false-claims-surrounding-dr-charles-lieber-china-and-covid-19-coronavirus/32094143#

And ? Nothing differently at all in the fact check than what I Posted?  In fact most of it was copied from the DOJ link Posted 

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1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

And ? Nothing differently at all in the fact check than what I Posted?  In fact most of it was copied from the DOJ link Posted 

I mistook the tenor of your post, Nature Boy, and apologize. I thought you were replying to Steeleballz' question about who the "sources" were. Dr. Lieber isn't at the heart of this.

 

Will you accept my apologies? ❤️ I'm sort of not in the mood these days for fighting.

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You must also make him a sammich.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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2 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Hardly news but....

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/coronavirus-wuhan-lab-china-compete-us-sources

 

 

 

Also you guys recall the story I posted a while back about the Harvard Professor arrested for taking payment from the Chinese to help a lab in Wuhan

 

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2 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

 

Crazy.. after nearly a month and a half absolutely nothing has changed:

 

On 3/7/2020 at 7:31 PM, Burnt Reynolds said:

I don't know what to make of the origination of this coronavirus. I don't trust China either, I don't think its too much a reach, the viewpoint that the virus was man-made, but as far as how it was spread, I'm not entirely sure this was deliberate, doing this is hurt China badly as countries have started looking at restructuring (diversifying) how they source pharma products, including bringing production back. Even though it hurt other countries, this hurts China far worse, it's mind boggling that they'd do this to themselves on purpose, so it's not a reach I'm ready to make yet, despite my agreement to the idea that China is adversarial and that the US needs to stop relying on this country for trade on vital products.

 

 

Still don't see any proof it was deliberately spread (as in, released deliberately out of a lab), but I don't trust China and don't think its too much a reach that it was a man made virus originating from a lab. We had warnings about this months and years ago about lax security at these labs and the potential danger but now that a certain demographic are busy narrative driving (ensuring the US response leaves Americans crippled and unable to mount an effective response), while China's propaganda was "deliberately" harmful in trying to get people to engage in behaviors that spread the virus originating from their country, you notice efforts to undermine getting to the bottom of this, from China and from the media, left, politicians, etc. It's really troublesome that the American populace has to overcome both foreign adversaries and this oddball internal political alliance that aims to trainwreck the country if people don't give them their way politically. 

 

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06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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2 hours ago, laylalex said:

 

Will you accept my apologies? ❤️ I'm sort of not in the mood these days for fighting.

and now you'll make a good wife   :)

* ~ * Charles * ~ *
 

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USE THE REPORT BUTTON INSTEAD OF MESSAGING A MODERATOR!

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6 hours ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Crazy.. after nearly a month and a half absolutely nothing has changed:

 

 

 

Still don't see any proof it was deliberately spread (as in, released deliberately out of a lab), but I don't trust China and don't think its too much a reach that it was a man made virus originating from a lab. We had warnings about this months and years ago about lax security at these labs and the potential danger but now that a certain demographic are busy narrative driving (ensuring the US response leaves Americans crippled and unable to mount an effective response), while China's propaganda was "deliberately" harmful in trying to get people to engage in behaviors that spread the virus originating from their country, you notice efforts to undermine getting to the bottom of this, from China and from the media, left, politicians, etc. It's really troublesome that the American populace has to overcome both foreign adversaries and this oddball internal political alliance that aims to trainwreck the country if people don't give them their way politically. 

 

What's crazy is that many people are latching on to this idea that China used this pandemic as a form of biological warfare to hurt the United States economically. I have seen some really smart people touting this theory and the 5G theory. My wife is even buying into the biological warfare theory and she is a really smart woman:rolleyes:

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1 hour ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

What's crazy is that many people are latching on to this idea that China used this pandemic as a form of biological warfare to hurt the United States economically. I have seen some really smart people touting this theory and the 5G theory. My wife is even buying into the biological warfare theory and she is a really smart woman:rolleyes:

Most of the govt authorities I saw speaking on the subject, suggested it was accidental. A woman not following protocol got it and gave it to her boyfriend. 

The failure to acknowledge and admit are real 

10 hours ago, laylalex said:

I mistook the tenor of your post, Nature Boy, and apologize. I thought you were replying to Steeleballz' question about who the "sources" were. Dr. Lieber isn't at the heart of this.

 

Will you accept my apologies? ❤️ I'm sort of not in the mood these days for fighting.

You know I love you boo. You my kinda gal 

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