CDC quietly deletes hydroxychloroquine guidance as study hyped by Trump comes into question

[nykolos 711]

On 4/17/2020 at 6:43 AM, 90DayFinancier said:

NEWS
French study finds hydroxychloroquine doesn't help patients with coronavirus
Wednesday, April 15th 2020, 7:46 PM AKDT
By: CNN News

 

Another French study shows that it does help patients;

 

https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/19/french-study-finds-anti-malarial-and-antibiotic-combo-could-reduce-covid-19-duration/

 

See how easy it is to cherry pick a study?, The bottom line is, in combination with other drugs, hydroxychloroquine  does in fact help,  it doesn't hurt and it doesn't kill people like CNN and MSNBC would you have believe.

 

 

 

[nykolos 711]

On 4/17/2020 at 10:35 AM, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Well Gates and others have donated 100s of millions to up to 7 different companies to help find a vacine.

Oddly enough for some bizarre reason the far right is now calling him the anti christ 

It's always a GOOD THING to see billionaires contributing the health and suffering in this world,  right or left it doesn't matter. And more power to Gates donating to the WHO, the money that Trump plans to cut from the WHO, Gates and others are more than welcome to make up the difference. 

 

 

Edited April 20, 2020 by nykolos

[Steeleballz 7,550]

4 minutes ago, nykolos said:

Another French study shows that it does help patients;

 

https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/19/french-study-finds-anti-malarial-and-antibiotic-combo-could-reduce-covid-19-duration/

 

See how easy it is to cherry pick a study?, The bottom line is, in combination with other drugs, hydroxychloroquine  does in fact help,  it doesn't hurt and it doesn't kill people like CNN and MSNBC would you have believe.

 

 

 

 

 

   That's not another study. It's the original French report that started the whole HCQ debate. Hence the date, March 18th. You are just posting a different link to the same source. All it showed is it may have helped people with mild symptoms recover slightly faster.

 

  It hasn't been repeated in studies done on people with severe symptoms. 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

I just hate the politics in all this. Seems like a good time for politicians to join hands, stop pointing fingers and unite us.

 

Both sides are wrong including Trumps nightly,  look how grand I am press conference. Not saying he hasnt done a good job. But Jesus shut up alreadry.

 

Chis Wallace,  who is one of the few journalists I respect,  interviewed Pelosi yesterday. She went on and on about Trump not acting fast enough. Then he cut to a Video of her holding a rally in China town at the same time, with no mention of corona virus. Her bumbling answer once something about diversity. 

 

I also think the China shaming is a bit overdone. 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

2 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I just hate the politics in all this. Seems like a good time for politicians to join hands, stop pointing fingers and unite us.

 

Both sides are wrong including Trumps nightly,  look how grand I am press conference. Not saying he hasnt done a good job. But Jesus shut up alreadry.

 

Chis Wallace,  who is one of the few journalists I respect,  interviewed Pelosi yesterday. She went on and on about Trump not acting fast enough. Then he cut to a Video of her holding a rally in China town at the same time, with no mention of corona virus. Her bumbling answer once something about diversity. 

 

I also think the China shaming is a bit overdone. 

 

   My favorite part about reading the news instead of watching it I can ignore/skip all the rubbish. Which is like 98%. I hate when people have it on the TV at work. It's mostly noise pollution.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

1 hour ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   My favorite part about reading the news instead of watching it I can ignore/skip all the rubbish. Which is like 98%. I hate when people have it on the TV at work. It's mostly noise pollution.

Not working I have the news on. While goofing off on the net. I could condense the entire day into about 30 mins. Just like Cronkite 

[nykolos 711]

11 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

   That's not another study. It's the original French report that started the whole HCQ debate. Hence the date, March 18th. You are just posting a different link to the same source. All it showed is it may have helped people with mild symptoms recover slightly faster.

 

  It hasn't been repeated in studies done on people with severe symptoms. 

My point is, regardless of any study, the drug helps... Cuomo announced today that 20 hospitals in New York are using hydroxychloroquine to treat Covid19 patients, Apparently 20 Hospitals didn't take the French study seriously, A study that just so happened to be cited by CNN, a network that would cite any source in the world that plays to their narrative. 

 

 

[Dashinka 24,743]

1 hour ago, nykolos said:

My point is, regardless of any study, the drug helps... Cuomo announced today that 20 hospitals in New York are using hydroxychloroquine to treat Covid19 patients, Apparently 20 Hospitals didn't take the French study seriously, A study that just so happened to be cited by CNN, a network that would cite any source in the world that plays to their narrative. 

 

 

It is interesting that the media is not questioning Cuomo promoting the potential hope of HCQ.

[OriZ 3,157]

7 hours ago, nykolos said:

My point is, regardless of any study, the drug helps... Cuomo announced today that 20 hospitals in New York are using hydroxychloroquine to treat Covid19 patients, Apparently 20 Hospitals didn't take the French study seriously, A study that just so happened to be cited by CNN, a network that would cite any source in the world that plays to their narrative. 

 

 

The drug has the potential to help,  under very certain circumstances, and for most people it's likely not going to provide any benefit, for some it will provide life threatening side effects. 

 

We can keep going around in circles but those are the simple known facts as we know them right now.

[90DayFinancier 910]

11 hours ago, nykolos said:

My point is, regardless of any study, the drug helps... Cuomo announced today that 20 hospitals in New York are using hydroxychloroquine to treat Covid19 patients, Apparently 20 Hospitals didn't take the French study seriously, A study that just so happened to be cited by CNN, a network that would cite any source in the world that plays to their narrative. 

 

 

The drug has the distinct possibility of harming.  

Other patients are experiencing a shortage.

Studies show there is not enough evidence to prove it works.

 

Cite people's personal views, the presidents optimistic view or CNN, the science doesn't back it up.

[Dashinka 24,743]

8 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

The drug has the distinct possibility of harming.  

Other patients are experiencing a shortage.

Studies show there is not enough evidence to prove it works.

 

Cite people's personal views, the presidents optimistic view or CNN, the science doesn't back it up.

And Cuomo’s personal views.  Don’t forget the governor of NY is touting the same hope.

[90DayFinancier 910]

Just now, Dashinka said:

And Cuomo’s personal views.  Don’t forget the governor of NY is touting the same hope.

Did he tell people to take the drug? 

[Dashinka 24,743]

2 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

Did he tell people to take the drug? 

No, and neither did Trump, but both have promoted the potential hope for a therapeutic, and of course left the medical decisions up to the patient and the Dr.

Edited April 21, 2020 by Dashinka

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

52 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

The drug has the distinct possibility of harming.  

Other patients are experiencing a shortage.

Studies show there is not enough evidence to prove it works.

 

Cite people's personal views, the presidents optimistic view or CNN, the science doesn't back it up.

 

You basically said its too dangerous to take and don't take it because so many others take it daily and need it, in the same post

 

Those are really lame. All drugs can hurt you if taken wrong. Tylenol can kill you.

Edited April 21, 2020 by Nature Boy 2.0

[90DayFinancier 910]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

 

You basically said its too dangerous to take and don't take it because so many others take it daily and need it, in the same post

 

Those are really lame. All drugs can hurt you if taken wrong. Tylenol can kill you.

I really should back off, we have so many medical experts on this site already 🙄