COVID 19 is the number one cause of death for April 7th in the US

[Orangesapples 1,954]

https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/1830480/

 

It's just a flu after all. 

[Dashinka 24,817]

Yes, because anyone that is confirmed to have Covid19 and subsequently passes away regardless as to the primary cause, is counted as a Covid19 death.

[Orangesapples 1,954]

3 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Yes, because anyone that is confirmed to have Covid19 and subsequently passes away regardless as to the primary cause, is counted as a Covid19 death.

Yes, sure, if you get stabbed, you're counted as a covid 19 death! 

 

Actually, the number of deaths us under reported because many people die at home and they're never tested. 

[Dashinka 24,817]

1 minute ago, Orangesapples said:

Yes, sure, if you get stabbed, you're counted as a covid 19 death! 

 

Actually, the number of deaths us under reported because many people die at home and they're never tested. 

Umm, yes actually.  There was already a thread discussing how these are counted.

[milimelo 4,568]

14 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Yes, because anyone that is confirmed to have Covid19 and subsequently passes away regardless as to the primary cause, is counted as a Covid19 death.

Agree. Example from CT where an infant accidentally died was touted as a covid death when it clearly wasn't. 
Everyone knows Americans have over 50% people who have at least one chronic illness - add the obesity epidemic plus other comorbidities and no wonder the death rate is high - even if they only test positive after death they'll count them as covid death which is wrong. 

[90DayFinancier 910]

28 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Yes, because anyone that is confirmed to have Covid19 and subsequently passes away regardless as to the primary cause, is counted as a Covid19 death.

And a number deaths attributed to pneumonia were undoubtedly CV 19

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,385]

7 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

And a number deaths attributed to pneumonia were undoubtedly CV 19

And thing is. The numbers may not be perfect none are. Fact remains this aint the flu and you deny it all you want. Does not change we are in a pandemic like we have never seen before 

[Dashinka 24,817]

20 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

And a number deaths attributed to pneumonia were undoubtedly CV 19

Nothing else can lead to a person developing pneumonia?

[yuna628 9,722]

54 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Nothing else can lead to a person developing pneumonia?

What COVID19 does to the lungs and the entire body is not strictly pneumonia. The progression from pneumonia like illness to something extreme happens quickly. It's probably not the best way to describe it. It shreds the lungs and at the same time gets to works on other organs in the body causing massive kidney, liver, and heart failure. Survivors are going to have severe life-long damage to various areas of their body. Doctors are also seeing it causing the body to react by extreme clotting which can take place anywhere in the body. There's also reports of it causing damage to the brain, not solely due to lack of oxygen. In men, in China, it was reported that it could cause long term damage to their virility.

 

I also wonder if we won't also see other long term effects science hasn't understood yet. Take someone having a severe case of certain diseases like Mono. Exposure to that puts a person at long term risks for a variety of other issues, from CFS to other viruses and disease, to immune system damage.

Edited April 8, 2020 by yuna628

[yuna628 9,722]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

And thing is. The numbers may not be perfect none are. Fact remains this aint the flu and you deny it all you want. Does not change we are in a pandemic like we have never seen before 

I think it was really quite harmful for the CDC to even ever compare it to the flu to begin with. Yes it was probably to assure people and dissuade fears as they kept repeating "90 percent will be just fine and it will be mild" but reports I'm hearing from people that had it "mild" have said it was unlike anything they have ever experienced in their life. From a personal standpoint they kind of said something similar about H1N1... but that really wasn't like any regular flu either in my experience. Those that came down with H1N1 and COVID19 say the experience was still something completely even more severe on another level. And yes, there are a lot of people walking around asymptomatic or just having 'sniffles' never realizing - those are the cases I'd say are the 'mild' ones. Regular non-hospitalization cases? Probably should be receiving some sort of proper care other than just at home, but there's no way the system could cope with that.

[Orangesapples 1,954]

15 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

 From a personal standpoint they kind of said something similar about H1N1... but that really wasn't like any regular flu either in my experience. Those that came down with H1N1 and COVID19 say the experience was still something completely even more severe on another level. 

I remember the swine flu. I got really sick after contact with a confirmed case, I didn't get tested myself though but it was probably that. It was many years ago but I still remember it as one of the worst flu cases I've ever had. 

 

And way more people will die from COVID 19 than swine flu. 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

17 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

 

And way more people will die from COVID 19 than swine flu.

What makes you say this?

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

2 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Nothing else can lead to a person developing pneumonia?

The flu, and it's still flu season.

 

Not newsworthy though.

 

3 hours ago, Orangesapples said:

https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/1830480/

 

It's just a flu after all. 

 

High five bro, national holiday! #Biden2020

Edited April 8, 2020 by Burnt Reynolds

[Steeleballz 7,550]

9 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Yes, because anyone that is confirmed to have Covid19 and subsequently passes away regardless as to the primary cause, is counted as a Covid19 death.

 

  I thought we cleared this up. Covid-19 is reportable to the CDC. Covid-19 can be listed as the primary cause of death or as a contributing cause of death on a death certificate.

[Dashinka 24,817]

36 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  I thought we cleared this up. Covid-19 is reportable to the CDC. Covid-19 can be listed as the primary cause of death or as a contributing cause of death on a death certificate.

I agree, and I am not questioning that.  Just not sure anyone saw our discussion.  Btw, did you see the post talking about open air wards?