A Party of Haters

[Orangesapples 1,954]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

You are right, its a shame it is a political agenda instead of a calm rational debate about bettering our environment 

A meaningful debate can only happen between experts. Regular people cannot offer anything of substance. There is a scientific consensus that climate change caused by humans is real and that we need to do something about it. Regular people only need to stop electing science deniers and politicians who are financed by special interests. Those exist in both parties in the US unfortunately. 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,376]

18 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

I have spent over a decade interpreting the scripts that are published by NB and NB2.0.  I am an expert!!  😜

Dear god it has been close to a decade hasnt it.

I wonder how much time we have wasted here.

 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,376]

10 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

A meaningful debate can only happen between experts. Regular people cannot offer anything of substance. There is a scientific consensus that climate change caused by humans is real and that we need to do something about it. Regular people only need to stop electing science deniers and politicians who are financed by special interests. Those exist in both parties in the US unfortunately. 

Regular people can not offer anything of substance? Dear god ?

[Orangesapples 1,954]

3 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Regular people can not offer anything of substance? Dear god ?

Nope, not unless they're climate scientists. They can't offer anything of substance on the "debate" about whether climate change is real and whether it's is man made. They just don't know enough to be able to contribute. They need to accept the overwhelming consensus and start taking it seriously. 

[Ban Hammer 13,419]

19 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

A meaningful debate can only happen between experts. Regular people cannot offer anything of substance. There is a scientific consensus that climate change caused by humans is real and that we need to do something about it. Regular people only need to stop electing science deniers and politicians who are financed by special interests. Those exist in both parties in the US unfortunately. 

so you're an expert, is that what i am to understand?
and i knew it wasn't long before someone trotted out that old chestnut of "the science is settled."

[Orangesapples 1,954]

8 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

so you're an expert, is that what i am to understand?
and i knew it wasn't long before someone trotted out that old chestnut of "the science is settled."

I'm not an expert, I have enough humility to trust experts when they have reached a consensus. I don't think I know better than NASA. 

 

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

[Ban Hammer 13,419]

11 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

I'm not an expert, I have enough humility to trust experts when they have reached a consensus. I don't think I know better than NASA. 

 

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

at one time consensus was that eugenics was true......

[Orangesapples 1,954]

21 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

at one time consensus was that eugenics was true......

Eugenics is not a matter of being true or not, it's a moral issue. Climate change is a matter of whether the increase in global temperatures is due to human activity, so it's a matter of rejected the null hypothesis that it is not. The overwhelming evidence we have is more than enough to reject the null hypothesis. 

 

But maybe the wise users of visa journey know better than NASA, anything is possible I guess. 

[Rosalind F 178]

2 hours ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Science isn't the business of "warning people", also known as alarmism. That's for religion, which as we can see, the non-religious aren't beyond. They clearly understand though what gets them their way, hence why there's no institution off limits to hijacking for political/economic purposes. 

Okay, then you probably should avoid getting checked for cancer or other diseases. Since it's not a business of science of warning people, you know. 

[TBoneTX 45,571]

"Throw a Communist out the window and he comes back in through the front door as an environmentalist."

 

The original citation in this thread is about the political party and the virus.  Can we please return to it?

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

2 hours ago, Orangesapples said:

Nope, not unless they're climate scientists. They can't offer anything of substance on the "debate" about whether climate change is real and whether it's is man made. They just don't know enough to be able to contribute. They need to accept the overwhelming consensus and start taking it seriously. 

                                                                           

Edited April 8, 2020 by Voice of Reason

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

3 hours ago, Orangesapples said:

That's obvious. 

What I AM is one highly intelligent individual who can view the world around himself with logic and apply uncommon sense.  I'll take that over being a "climate expert" like Greta or many others any day.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

3 hours ago, Rosalind F said:

Okay, then you probably should avoid getting checked for cancer or other diseases. Since it's not a business of science of warning people, you know. 

Alarmism, but nice try. Alarmism would be, for example, a doctor presuming because of your age and symptoms that you have an STD rather than proving it by doing blood workups and other medical diagnostics/procedures. Proof and accuracy is where science is science. Alarmism is trying to tell people the Earth's climate is akin to  home thermostat you can turn up and down based on how much you cater to green politics. It's also invoking such comical arguments like "see, 93% of our handpicked scientists agree with us.. I mean 95%, I mean 98%, I mean 99%, I mean 99.99999%! Now you must believe what I say and give me my way!", while completely ignoring all the similar wrong climate predicates of the past. Clearly religion. I did the religion thing once, not into it, but at very least, if one is going to be religious, lets not hijack something as useful as science and weaponize it as the left do with any institution they take over.

Edited April 8, 2020 by Burnt Reynolds

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

4 hours ago, Orangesapples said:

A meaningful debate can only happen between experts. Regular people cannot offer anything of substance. There is a scientific consensus that climate change caused by humans is real and that we need to do something about it. Regular people only need to stop electing science deniers and politicians who are financed by special interests. Those exist in both parties in the US unfortunately. 

"You dare think you're on the same level as the priests? They're in complete consensus! Need to stop electing blasphemers and get back to worship of our faith! Need to clean out both of these parties of heathens!"

 

A beautiful sermon, reverend. Just one problem though, this special power of debate you gave to a clergy, you violated yourself. You must report for summary judgment. 

[TBoneTX 45,571]

29 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

you have an STD

I have an oil additive?!  Oh, uh... that's STP...

 

Now BACK TO TOPIC, please!