All things Corona Virus

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

13 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  What was monetized about it? Are you suggesting the hospital doesn't get paid if you spend 2 weeks in ICU and the diagnosis is not Covid-19? I assure you they do.

Part of the CARES act means that the feds will pay for everyone with the Coronavirus. So it's in the hospital's best interests of they say it's Corona

[Steeleballz 7,550]

9 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

There goes yet ANOTHER swing.  One more and you're out.

 

    The funny thing is you didn't even read the link you posted. It has nothing to do with hospital billing. It's the state DOH posting the numbers. The deaths were correctly reported by hospitals as probable Covid-19 and the DOH included them as confirmed.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

Just now, Cyberfx1024 said:

Part of the CARES act means that the feds will pay for everyone with the Coronavirus. So it's in the hospital's best interests of they say it's Corona

 

  Yes for uninsured patients on medicare, they reimburse so hospitals don't just turn people away. Health insurance is billed for anyone who has insurance.

 

  None of that is related to how the cause of death is reported. Medicare reimburses for suspected cases of Covid-19 too.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

23 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    The funny thing is you didn't even read the link you posted. It has nothing to do with hospital billing. It's the state DOH posting the numbers. The deaths were correctly reported by hospitals as probable Covid-19 and the DOH included them as confirmed.

The funny thing is I DID read.it, but it wasn't really news, as we discussed the fact that hospitals get more money for covid deaths than normal deaths.  If the DOH made the error, that's on them, still doesn't change the moral of the story, the one you refuse to see.  But it's ok, we can still be buds on here.

 

 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

Just now, Voice of Reason said:

The funny thing is I DID read.it, but it wasn't really news, as we discussed the fact that hospitals get more money for covid deaths than normal deaths.  If the DOH made the error, that's on them, still doesn't change the moral of the story, the one you refuse to see.  But it's ok, we can still be buds on here.

 

 

 

    Hospitals don't get paid by cause of death. I'm still not sure why you think that, but I give up trying to explain.

[Ban Hammer 13,491]

[laylalex 7,300]

Just now, Steeleballz said:

 

    Hospitals don't get paid by cause of death. I'm still not sure why you think that, but I give up trying to explain.

Hey Steele, I heard today from a friend of the family who's a nurse at a hospital in Denver that the National Guard came in and tested everyone in the hospital. Apparently there are 8 or 9 active cases positive now there, and some red flag went up because the hospital had NO confirmed cases. She herself just got a negative result last week -- the hospital wouldn't pay for her test, even though she was feeling extremely unwell and exhibiting some symptoms consistent with COVID19. 

 

Very, very scary that the National Guard would need to be called in for this kind of thing.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

1 minute ago, laylalex said:

Hey Steele, I heard today from a friend of the family who's a nurse at a hospital in Denver that the National Guard came in and tested everyone in the hospital. Apparently there are 8 or 9 active cases positive now there, and some red flag went up because the hospital had NO confirmed cases. She herself just got a negative result last week -- the hospital wouldn't pay for her test, even though she was feeling extremely unwell and exhibiting some symptoms consistent with COVID19. 

 

Very, very scary that the National Guard would need to be called in for this kind of thing.

 

  My wife works at a different heath system than I do and she has told me some scary stories already. I already told her she should call OSHA over some of the things they are doing.

 

  Where I work we have to call occupational health if we have any of a number of symptoms. They tested me because I had a sore throat and they paid me to stay home for 3 days until the result came back negative. I didn't ever think I had anything, but they are extremely concerned about us spreading something asymptomatically. My wife got the sore throat the day after I did. She called her occ health dept and they told her she should call her doctor if she wanted to be tested and that she could call in sick if she needed to, but she shouldn't really call in sick just for a sore throat. Completely opposite approach and it really could come back and bite them. I haven't heard about the national guard but I wouldn't be surprised if it's the healthcare system she works for.

[NikLR 13,232]

@Steeleballz

Would a covid-19 test come back negative if the person had it and recovered?

[laylalex 7,300]

Okay, apparently the National Guard coming in was about five or six days ago (just peeked on her Facebook page -- I had missed this when she posted it as a comment to someone else congratulating her on getting a negative result). 

 

I just spent 10 minutes in a hole FB-stalking her and feel a little creepy now.  

[Steeleballz 7,550]

Just now, NikLR said:

@Steeleballz

Would a covid-19 test come back negative if the person had it and recovered?

 

  Yes, the one they do the nasal swab for will be negative after someone recovers. After someone tests positive in hospital, we usually wait for 2 consecutive negative results to confirm that they have recovered. The antibody test done on blood would still be positive in most cases even after someone recovers.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

2 minutes ago, laylalex said:

Okay, apparently the National Guard coming in was about five or six days ago (just peeked on her Facebook page -- I had missed this when she posted it as a comment to someone else congratulating her on getting a negative result). 

 

I just spent 10 minutes in a hole FB-stalking her and feel a little creepy now.  

 

  I saw the national guard was helping with testing several nursing care facilities. I haven't heard about them doing anything in a hospital.

[NikLR 13,232]

3 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Yes, the one they do the nasal swab for will be negative after someone recovers. After someone tests positive in hospital, we usually wait for 2 consecutive negative results to confirm that they have recovered. The antibody test done on blood would still be positive in most cases even after someone recovers.

Just curious. Pretty sure my friend had this but couldnt get tested when we had to close down March 16th.  She finally got a test done thursday (over a month later) because of still having trouble breathing.  She had walking pneumonia. 

[laylalex 7,300]

Just now, Steeleballz said:

 

  I saw the national guard was helping with testing several nursing care facilities. I haven't heard about them doing anything in a hospital.

Definitely a hospital. I got the original message from her in a group text earlier today -- if I find out which facility, I'll let you know.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

Just now, NikLR said:

Just curious. Pretty sure my friend had this but couldnt get tested when we had to close down March 16th.  She finally got a test done thursday (over a month later) because of still having trouble breathing.  She had walking pneumonia. 

 

   The antibody test is not widely available yet, but it supposedly will be soon. I know Labcorp has started doing them in Colorado, but I don't think they are available to the public just yet. My feeling is anyone who suspects they might have had Covid-19 should probably get the antibody test done when it's available. 

 

   Walking pneumonia is usually a virus, so it could be any respiratory virus that persists at a low level. Other Coronaviruses sometimes cause it, so theoretically Covid-19 could present as walking pneumonia too, but the nasal swab test should be positive if it was due to Covid-19. Sometimes the symptoms of walking pneumonia persist for a few weeks after the virus is completely cleared due to the inflammation that occurred during the immune response.