All things Corona Virus

[Steeleballz 7,550]

5 hours ago, Dashinka said:

How do you explain the fact that the US death numbers from the first peak in early April was in the neighborhood of 2000 per day, but the second wave that peaked in late July had death numbers around 1400 per day and those numbers have been essentially flat since the first major peak.  It seems there was a flattening for the curve which is what all the experts were calling for in March, the medical community has improved treatment, and potentially the virus has been mutating to be less deadly.

 

    What you posted is all correct, but the virus is still potentially deadly. When I see a positive Covid test, I can look at lab results, vitals, o2 sat etc, and you can get an idea of how someone is going to do from the time they are admitted. People are starting to come in to ER in really bad shape again. That wasn't happening all summer, not to the extent is has on the last couple of weeks.

 

  Whether people are waiting too long to come in, or whether the cooler temperatures have made the virus more virulent IDK, but many of these people will be fighting for their lives and some won't make it. All of a sudden, just like back in April, our Covid units are operating at capacity. The treatment may have improved, but it hasn't improved enough to where people with sepsis, organ failure and disseminated intravascular coagulation will be able to recover.  This is going to continue to be a challenging illness to manage, and when we see infection rates spike, we are going to see the number of deaths go up correspondingly too. As always, the best thing anyone can do is try to avoid getting exposed. 

[Dashinka 24,494]

1 hour ago, CanAm1980 said:

What do you personally hope to gain from continuing to throw shade on the science? There are lives on the line.

Are you telling me that everyone agrees in the scientific community?  Besides, I was not discounting the science, I was merely pointing out what the numbers are saying from Worldometers and asking why this is not being discussed.  They show some nice handy graphs showing the progression of this deadly virus.

Edited October 18, 2020 by Dashinka

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

24 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Are you telling me that everyone agrees in the scientific community?  Besides, I was not discounting the science, I was merely pointing out what the numbers are saying from Worldometers and asking why this is not being discussed.  They show some nice handy graphs showing the progression of this deadly virus.

You threw shade at science! Now science is offended! Apologize!

 

The left like to give "science" personal characteristics as a way of positioning it toward their unscientific bias.. weaponizing it. Sufficed to say, no rational person believes the left cares about science nor "morals", even though they like to throw these and a litany of other empty-handed terms to whomever is weak enough to give it the time of day.

 

 

[Dashinka 24,494]

1 minute ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

You threw shade at science! Now science is offended! Apologize!

 

The left like to give "science" personal characteristics as a way of positioning it toward their unscientific bias.. weaponizing it. Sufficed to say, no rational person believes the left cares about science nor "morals", even though they like to throw these and a litany of other empty-handed terms to whomever is weak enough to give it the time of day.

 

 

I am so so sorry that science is offended.  I will do better on the future.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

1 hour ago, Dashinka said:

Are you telling me that everyone agrees in the scientific community?  Besides, I was not discounting the science, I was merely pointing out what the numbers are saying from Worldometers and asking why this is not being discussed.  They show some nice handy graphs showing the progression of this deadly virus.

 

   Well it is being discussed. Everywhere. Several schools here have gone back to online learning only. That trend is going to continue. We are on the cusp of other restrictions coming back. Denver just brought back restrictions on large gatherings. 

[Ban Hammer 13,336]

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

4 hours ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

You threw shade at science! Now science is offended! Apologize!

 

The left like to give "science" personal characteristics as a way of positioning it toward their unscientific bias.. weaponizing it. Sufficed to say, no rational person believes the left cares about science nor "morals", even though they like to throw these and a litany of other empty-handed terms to whomever is weak enough to give it the time of day.

 

 

Yeah.  You should see the thread I started about the 2025 world population.  Completely wackadoodle.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

6 hours ago, CanAm1980 said:

What do you personally hope to gain from continuing to throw shade on the science? There are lives on the line.

Yep.  Every year.  How many people have died from malaria, TB, and HIV (yanno, the original pandemic) this year, or in 2019?  You probably don't know, and you most likely don't care, do you?

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

Would be nice to look at this:

 

 

 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

I'm sure some random CEHST mask expert will be along shortly to tell you that masks WORK (dammit), and you must wear it for the sake of those around you.  

 

For the rest of us, the science has been out there for years.  It's better than nothing, if only one uses them properly.  

[Orangesapples 1,954]

On 10/18/2020 at 4:22 PM, Voice of Reason said:

Yep.  Every year.  How many people have died from malaria, TB, and HIV (yanno, the original pandemic) this year, or in 2019?  You probably don't know, and you most likely don't care, do you?

Some of us do care and donate to organizations that help with those diseases around the world. But a lockdown is not going to help with them, for obvious reasons. 

[Dashinka 24,494]

10 hours ago, Orangesapples said:

Some of us do care and donate to organizations that help with those diseases around the world. But a lockdown is not going to help with them, for obvious reasons. 

What are those obvious reasons?

[Orangesapples 1,954]

2 hours ago, Dashinka said:

What are those obvious reasons?

The way the diseases are transmitted. I think it's pretty obvious. A lockdown will not stop mosquitoes and obviously HIV is transmitted sexually or through blood, so social distancing and masks is not a solution that makes sense. 

[Dashinka 24,494]

1 hour ago, Orangesapples said:

The way the diseases are transmitted. I think it's pretty obvious. A lockdown will not stop mosquitoes and obviously HIV is transmitted sexually or through blood, so social distancing and masks is not a solution that makes sense. 

Isn't TB as contagious, and spread the same way as Covid?

[Orangesapples 1,954]

7 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Isn't TB as contagious, and spread the same way as Covid?

TB is complex and malnutrition is one of the biggest risk factors for developing the disease after contracting it. Also, TB is caused by bacteria and can be treated with antibiotics.