All things Corona Virus

[Ban Hammer 13,491]

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

1 hour ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Death % would go down as cases increases, the only reason in the coming months that cases really fall off is if either 1) the entire population is tested, or 2) if they simply are shutting things down and people in the general populace aren't getting tested (limiting testing to more serious and likely confirmed cases). If it's the latter, they're simply delaying it more, not stopping anything. Once testing resumes, positive cases increase again, and the death rate plummets. 

 

The reason why the % was so high before is that 1) little was known about the virus, and 2) overwhelmingly the people tested were exhibiting serious symptoms. Combined with #1, there was a much higher risk. That risk has now lowered substantially, both because of treatment, but also knowing the segments of population most at risk, thus being able to take measures to isolate them. 

 

Of the most vulnerable, there are general practices that should've occurred regardless of the kung flu. Of all the useless and dangerous responses done to this, I do feel like one of the good things that can occur is awareness and mitigation strategies aimed at isolating the vulnerable, without trainwrecking the populace at large. 

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[Voice of Reason 10,298]

4 hours ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Death % would go down as cases increases, the only reason in the coming months that cases really fall off is if either 1) the entire population is tested, or 2) if they simply are shutting things down and people in the general populace aren't getting tested (limiting testing to more serious and likely confirmed cases). If it's the latter, they're simply delaying it more, not stopping anything. Once testing resumes, positive cases increase again, and the death rate plummets. 

 

The reason why the % was so high before is that 1) little was known about the virus, and 2) overwhelmingly the people tested were exhibiting serious symptoms. Combined with #1, there was a much higher risk. That risk has now lowered substantially, both because of treatment, but also knowing the segments of population most at risk, thus being able to take measures to isolate them. 

 

Of the most vulnerable, there are general practices that should've occurred regardless of the kung flu. Of all the useless and dangerous responses done to this, I do feel like one of the good things that can occur is awareness and mitigation strategies aimed at isolating the vulnerable, without trainwrecking the populace at large. 

I am glad to see that at least some people grasp the scenario instead of clutching at straws and yelling about how the sky is falling.

 

Truth is, we don't really know the numbers and won't for some time, but...

 

The average age of covid deaths in the US is 78.  The average lifespan of us humans is 78.5 (give or take).

 

Many, many of the "covid deaths" would most likely have died anyway.  I know that sounds harsh, and no one likes to lose a loved one, but just like Warren's brother, people die.  It's just the circle of life.

 

Eventually we will get thru this mess, and I suspect more and more people will have their blinders removed as to the scamDEMic aspect of control of the public for political reasons.  But for now, I'm just glad we can share information amongst our little VJ family and keep discussing how crazy our world is becoming.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

[laylalex 7,300]

Fair enough, Nature Boy, fair enough. 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

How come no one is talking about the massive number of lost jobs?  Why is it just cases and deaths?

[Dashinka 24,740]

12 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

I am glad to see that at least some people grasp the scenario instead of clutching at straws and yelling about how the sky is falling.

 

Truth is, we don't really know the numbers and won't for some time, but...

 

The average age of covid deaths in the US is 78.  The average lifespan of us humans is 78.5 (give or take).

 

Many, many of the "covid deaths" would most likely have died anyway.  I know that sounds harsh, and no one likes to lose a loved one, but just like Warren's brother, people die.  It's just the circle of life.

 

Eventually we will get thru this mess, and I suspect more and more people will have their blinders removed as to the scamDEMic aspect of control of the public for political reasons.  But for now, I'm just glad we can share information amongst our little VJ family and keep discussing how crazy our world is becoming.

I doubt we will ever know the total numbers either in the US or worldwide.  History will end up with a huge estimate much like the 1969 pandemic where it supposedly killed between 1 and 4 million people worldwide.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

 

He was 74. Guess he was gonna die anyway. However sad to see him gone

 

Former GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain dies at 74 from coronavirus complications

Cain, 74, first went to an Atlanta hospital for treatment on July 1

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/herman-cain-dead-after-battle-with-coronavirus

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

This is why I keep saying we got to do everything possible to stop this thing without shutting down the economy. I say it know and have said it repeatedly. 

 

 

 

 

U.S. economy suffers titanic 32.9% plunge in 2nd quarter and points to drawn-out recovery

 

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/economy-suffers-titanic-329-plunge-in-2nd-quarter-gdp-shows-and-points-to-drawn-out-recovery-2020-07-30

[Dashinka 24,740]

4 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

This is why I keep saying we got to do everything possible to stop this thing without shutting down the economy. I say it know and have said it repeatedly. 

 

 

 

 

U.S. economy suffers titanic 32.9% plunge in 2nd quarter and points to drawn-out recovery

 

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/economy-suffers-titanic-329-plunge-in-2nd-quarter-gdp-shows-and-points-to-drawn-out-recovery-2020-07-30

Dr. Fauci now suggests we should be wearing goggles and/or a face shield.

 

https://nypost.com/2020/07/30/fauci-urges-americans-to-wear-goggles-for-added-covid-19-protection/

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

Just now, Dashinka said:

Dr. Fauci now suggests we should be wearing goggles and/or a face shield.

 

https://nypost.com/2020/07/30/fauci-urges-americans-to-wear-goggles-for-added-covid-19-protection/

LOL I give up. I just dont what to believe anymore. I just had my dental checkup. My Hygienist and doc both has 2 masks, face Shields and little cloth suit things

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

 

I had some people yesterday I spent about 3 hours with. They were masked so I did also. It was not comfortable 

 

 

Mask Fatigue: Some North Texas Workers Claim Headaches, Shortness Of Breath And Anxiety

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/07/29/mask-fatigue-texas-workers-headaches-shortness-breath-anxiety/

[Dashinka 24,740]

3 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

 

I had some people yesterday I spent about 3 hours with. They were masked so I did also. It was not comfortable 

 

 

Mask Fatigue: Some North Texas Workers Claim Headaches, Shortness Of Breath And Anxiety

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/07/29/mask-fatigue-texas-workers-headaches-shortness-breath-anxiety/

I wear a mask when necessary, but even for short periods I usually get a headache.

 

4 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

LOL I give up. I just dont what to believe anymore. I just had my dental checkup. My Hygienist and doc both has 2 masks, face Shields and little cloth suit things

I can understand dentists, and maybe hairdressers/barbers, nail salon workers, etc. wearing goggles or a face shield due to the amount of different people they come in contact with, but it will be interesting to see the general public wearing these items.

Edited July 30, 2020 by Dashinka

[yuna628 9,700]

12 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

How come no one is talking about the massive number of lost jobs?  Why is it just cases and deaths?

Dead people don't have jobs. But honestly the economic numbers we talk about on the local news almost every day, and I also see it on the national stuff.

1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

 

He was 74. Guess he was gonna die anyway. However sad to see him gone

 

Former GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain dies at 74 from coronavirus complications

Cain, 74, first went to an Atlanta hospital for treatment on July 1

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/herman-cain-dead-after-battle-with-coronavirus

He became ill after attending the Tulsa rally. Crammed right in there and proudly not wearing his mask. Did it to himself really, which is a shame.

19 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Dr. Fauci now suggests we should be wearing goggles and/or a face shield.

 

https://nypost.com/2020/07/30/fauci-urges-americans-to-wear-goggles-for-added-covid-19-protection/

It's not a terrible suggestion. I'd like to know the ratio of persons infected that were glasses wearers vs contacts. But from an optical standpoint those in the field were beginning to see early signs of infection in patients coming in with weird damage to their eyes, including blindness. If it's not inhaling, it's absolutely coming from an inability of people to stop touching their eyes. Goggles would stop that in theory, but it's not necessarily practical. I saw a woman not wearing a mask yesterday, and instead she wore a plastic shield. Not actually that helpful. One study showed persons who wore a mask only had the best protection vs someone just wearing a shield. Other studies have shown that entry through the eyes is a very fast route for becoming infected and I wonder if it is those people that wind up with the brain damage. The longer this goes on the more we will be able to study and discover.

17 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

LOL I give up. I just dont what to believe anymore. I just had my dental checkup. My Hygienist and doc both has 2 masks, face Shields and little cloth suit things

My dentist had multiple masks and shield. He's done a lot to his office to cut down on contact and purchased a special purifying system.

Edited July 30, 2020 by yuna628

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

11 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

I wear a mask when necessary, but even for short periods I usually get a headache.

 

I can understand dentists, and maybe hairdressers/barbers, nail salon workers, etc. wearing goggles or a face shield due to the amount of different people they come in contact with, but it will be interesting to see the general public wearing these items.

I just dont see that happening. 

 

I have heard reports that as many as 95% of the public has been wearing masks in some areas for months