All things Corona Virus

[Steeleballz 7,550]

19 minutes ago, Boiler said:

So why the cull?

 

   Generally they cull animals due to the risk of spreading the contagion back to humans, either directly (by contact or handling), or indirectly (by spreading it to another species of animal).

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

2 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

#MLM!!!!!!!

I was jsut about to ask you why Mink lives did not matter to you

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

Aldi just announced a mask only policy. Its going to be almost impossible soon to shop anywhere that does not require it.

 

I wonder where all those FB give me liberty of give me death, I will never shop there again, going to get their food now.. Its hilarious to me..

 

Oddly enough there seems to be a direct correlation between how much you post defending the confederate flag and how likely you are to post some complete unscientific stupidity on FB

[Steeleballz 7,550]

 

     Not directly Covid related, but this would be bad timing.

CDC Takes Action to Prepare Against “G4” Swine Flu Viruses in China with Pandemic Potential

 

   https://www.cdc.gov/flu/spotlights/2019-2020/cdc-prepare-swine-flu.html

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Aldi just announced a mask only policy. Its going to be almost impossible soon to shop anywhere that does not require it.

 

I wonder where all those FB give me liberty of give me death, I will never shop there again, going to get their food now.. Its hilarious to me..

 

Oddly enough there seems to be a direct correlation between how much you post defending the confederate flag and how likely you are to post some complete unscientific stupidity on FB

I guess fewer people than I thought utilize pickup services. We have for at least 3 years. Even before the virus, it wasn't tenable to be dragging kids around through a store, and god forbid the winter, having to dress them up, and ourselves (heaps of jackets/gloves/earmuffs/scarves/etc hauled around in the carts), the time it took for everything. Saved so much time to do an order at home and just go pick it up by waiting in the parking lot and have someone bring it out. I thought we were more about work-life balance and personal time-optimization? I don't get how things are evolving so slowly in some areas.

Edited July 18, 2020 by Burnt Reynolds

[NikLR 13,227]

9 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

Luckily, I haven't seen too much of the Rambos refusing to wear a mask in stores.  I think store managers have done fairly well with that, asking folks to leave if they aren't wearing one.  Even when eating out, people wear them from the door to the table, then take them off. (Or at the very least, wear them as they walk thru the door).

I can't ask people to leave, I've been told specifically that I can ask them to wear a mask but cannot refuse service nor ask someone to leave. 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

12 minutes ago, NikLR said:

I can't ask people to leave, I've been told specifically that I can ask them to wear a mask but cannot refuse service nor ask someone to leave. 

 

    It might have changed on Thursday. The July 16th executive order now states that indoor businesses in Colorado must refuse service to anyone not wearing a mask.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

2 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Aldi just announced a mask only policy. Its going to be almost impossible soon to shop anywhere that does not require it.

 

I wonder where all those FB give me liberty of give me death, I will never shop there again, going to get their food now.. Its hilarious to me..

 

Oddly enough there seems to be a direct correlation between how much you post defending the confederate flag and how likely you are to post some complete unscientific stupidity on FB

Just now a mask policy?  No wonder your state has so many cases.  That's been the rule here in FL for two months now.  Maybe it's your area, because a friend in Kinnesaw says they have been doing it for a while now too?

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

1 hour ago, NikLR said:

I can't ask people to leave, I've been told specifically that I can ask them to wear a mask but cannot refuse service nor ask someone to leave. 

Changing soon, someone posted earlier that it's becoming a state mandate IIRC. (sadly)

[OriZ 3,157]

41 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

Just now a mask policy?  No wonder your state has so many cases.  That's been the rule here in FL for two months now.  Maybe it's your area, because a friend in Kinnesaw says they have been doing it for a while now too?

We stopped at a seven eleven today, and the sign on the door said "please wear a mask". That doesn't really come across as  a strong requirement but more a request. The only two people inside who weren't employees, were not wearing one, and got service. In VT, where we have much fewer cases, those signs say "mask required"

Edited July 19, 2020 by OriZ

[NikLR 13,227]

1 hour ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    It might have changed on Thursday. The July 16th executive order now states that indoor businesses in Colorado must refuse service to anyone not wearing a mask.

well I will see what corporate tells me to do. 

[OriZ 3,157]

Just caught up on this thread and I'm honestly finding it entertaining to see the back and forth between the two sides. Although I'm on vacation, I personally don't think it's a hoax, and I feel I've been pretty consistent all throughout with how I look at this. Initially, I thought we needed stricter measures, as it seemed out of control in some countries or areas, not only to flatten the curve, but also to buy some time until we learn more about it. I still think that was the right move to make. I always held that around May would be the right time to gradually reopen, and indeed, that seems to be when most places started to, however some of them didn't do it very gradually or smartly and are suffering now. Those who did it properly seem in much better shape, and you can relatively safely do almost any activity now, provided that you take certain precautions.

 

I don't think anyone, even those who did it wrong, should completely close again. We do know more about the virus now, we know what to do to minimize risk, and what people need to realize is that no one really knows what's going to happen in the way of will there be a vaccine this year? next year? will treatment get better? will the virus disappear on its own? The fact is if you keep putting stuff off thinking that next year will be better, you might find out next year is worse. So I said this two months ago and will say it again - it's time to learn to live alongside this. We originally postponed our vacation by 1 month, but now, this is what we are doing, living alongside it. We have had many people ask us if we're crazy for doing so, especially since we left the safety of the state with the lowest number of confirmed and active cases, as well as the second lowest number of cases per 1 million people - and I don't think we are. I have done plenty of research on it and we take all the measures we can(not just for avoidance but also as far as giving our body what it needs goes).  We have had 4-5 indoor dining experiences so far, we have taken 4 planes, and will be taking more. It's been over a week since we left and so far we are doing fine.

 

I will say this - as far as masks go, I think they can be useful. I don't agree with anyone thinking people who don't wear them are rude, provided that that person keeps a safe distance(which imo, and the WHO agrees with me, is the most important thing, more than the mask). I do have issues with people who don't wear a mask in certain situation and still won't keep a distance. I also have an issue with people who wear a mask and don't keep a distance. My wife made some masks from quilt cotton fabric and there's also silk for an inner(third) layer which makes it not feel as terrible on your face. We have some pretty cool patterns so I don't mind them, it's almost a fashion statement. They look pretty, they feel good, they're breathable and, in certain situations, I think helpful, so we wear them in those situations. However I will never be a believer in wearing them walking down the street when no one is around you.

 

Travelling during covid also certainly has its perks. We have concluded that in some ways, This is the best time to travel. For one, the flying experience has been one of the best I've ever had. With no one sitting next to you, you're free to move around more, and wiping down our own area is alot easier without so many people in the way(which we still do, because despite what they say, imo, they're still not cleaning them properly, and they are still disgusting and filthy). Airports are almost empty. Security is swift, getting your baggage takes like 2 mins. In addition, destinations aren't as full. Some due to capacity restrictions, some due to most people just not having the guts to travel yet, and some a combination of both. When we were in Mexico, we went snorkeling with whale sharks and manta rays, saw dozens of each. Some of the sharks just hung around us. You can almost kinda mesmerize them if you swim right above them at their own pace and they think you're one of them. Then they go anywhere you go. We wanted to name this one that was with us for like 30 mins and take it home...amazing creatures. I mean...they were so comfortable with us I could have put my hand in its mouth if I wanted to. We were also totally alone in the middle of the ocean with them for two hours somewhere between mexico, the keys, and Cuba. Usually there are dozens of boats with people there. Our resort there was also pretty empty when we checked in, although it started filling up by the time we checked out.

 

It seems like a trend, like people are following us or something. 4 days ago, our resort in FL seemed pretty empty too, but in the last couple of days it seems like alot more people have come. I was told it's somewhere around 29% full right now, which is an improvement after it went almost down to 0 after the protests and spike in cases(the link to protests was actually made by a hotel employee). Right before that, and after the curve was initially flattened I guess it made it up to 67% at one point. More and more it seems like people are travelling and we're not the only ones though. Parks are getting fuller. Life goes on. We take our own temperature and oxygen twice a day. Hotel takes temperature once a day as well, as do some attractions. This is the new world ya'll. If we stay home now we'll never leave.

 

Edited July 19, 2020 by OriZ

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

I agree... it is by far THE BEST time to travel.  So many places wide open.

[Neonred 3,564]

10 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

Just now a mask policy?  No wonder your state has so many cases.  That's been the rule here in FL for two months now.  Maybe it's your area, because a friend in Kinnesaw says they have been doing it for a while now too?

Not the entire state.  It's been brought up and shot down a couple of times on this side.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

3 hours ago, Neonred said:

Not the entire state.  It's been brought up and shot down a couple of times on this side.

Gotcha, thanks.  So close, and yet the rules for not wiping out the entire human population are so different...