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[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

1 hour ago, Ban Hammer said:

that's the thing about dentists, they're quiet about what they do.

but pilots............
how do you know a pilot is at the party?  don't worry, he or she will tell you.

Dude report yourself. I know one that is not like that. He doesn't have to have the smoking young trophy wife either LOL

30 minutes ago, laylalex said:

Or people who are vegan.

or get free Netflix

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

4 hours ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

It went out the back door.... 

My teeth were always pretty good growing up. I didn't have my first cavity until I was 19. That was the biggest issue I had when I got custody of my older kids from their mom was there dental care. They had around 7 cavities apiece when they first went to the dentist and the cost was CRAZY even with insurance. I actually forced my wife to go to her first dental check up in 2015 because she had never gone to a dentist before just for a check up. 

I got a co worker getting a divorce from a Filipina who is crazy and wants to party. He said she has a lawyer and he will just let him do the paper work, although he made it clear he was representing  her. Was supposed to go tonight. We flipped out. Told him to try and get custody, because he would be stuck paying her child support, looking after the kid and still paying for everything 

[laylalex 7,289]

7 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

or get free Netflix

Hey! I have been paying for my own Netflix for quite a while now, thank you very much. It's not my fault Voldy didn't change his password.  

 

I mostly miss it because I really enjoyed messing with his recommendations and queue.

[Ban Hammer 13,352]

39 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Dude report yourself. I know one that is not like that. He doesn't have to have the smoking young trophy wife either LOL

 

oh look, i caught a fish!  now to give it to that chinese guy..........

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Those of you who are making jokes about pilots are hereby sentenced to watching Airplane and Airplane II.

 

What’s the difference between a fighter pilot and god?

God doesn’t think he’s a fighter pilot.

[Neonred 3,569]

On 6/10/2020 at 11:30 AM, yuna628 said:

Got a quote for root canal last week. Without insurance it's several thousand... with insurance it's like $700. I guess we should be happy somehow..

Wow,  can't be several thousand for just a root canal.  Must have included any build up and a crown.  Either that or I am charging WAY too low.  Even the specialist in my area don't charge like that.

On 6/10/2020 at 11:55 AM, yuna628 said:

Husband has always taken care of his teeth, had braces, goes to his routine care. This is in a cracked tooth that was filled in UK ten years ago. Don't think they did it right honestly, very shoddy, but my dentist was of the mind to just 'watch it' rather than do something big to it. Took husband in last week as he was talking gibberish and looked rather grey and complaining of pain. Major infection and needs the root canal now. Sometimes we do all we can for our teeth but... stuff happens. I can say that my parents never had the money for a dentist, no insurance growing up, so no dental care for me and I paid for it as an adult. Spent a lot having the dentist fix my mouth. Crooked and crowded teeth, and wisdom teeth being impacted really isn't something that a person can prevent if they have no money for dentists and orthodontics. There is nothing cheap about any sort of care from a dentist if there's no insurance, and most days that insurance is trash to begin with.

Believe it or not, even I had to have a root canal two years ago.  Cracked tooth, probably from grinding while stressed doing dentistry.  Went to an endodontist friend of mine that I refer to.  Had my daughter do the crown.

On 6/10/2020 at 12:24 PM, laylalex said:

When I was a teenager the dentist gave me the option of letting my wisdom teeth just come in or have them extracted, since my jaws are big enough to accommodate them. I chose to let them stay in, why not. I keep them clean and the dentist says they look just fine. The only downside is that about once or twice a year I have teething pain for 3 or 4 days. As I do right now, and have for the past two days. There is something not right about being 35 and thinking about going to the pharmacy to find a teething ring. 

You do know that after the age of about 20 your ability to heal continuously decreases/

On 6/10/2020 at 1:03 PM, Burnt Reynolds said:

Yeah it's not cheap. Our great supplemental insurances didn't touch our daughter's ortho work (expander, braces, etc.) meaning we forked about 5 figures over for her and that's just the initial stuff. Anything to do with the teeth is going to hurt, 

 

One of the last things that happened before I originally left for Canada is, after leaving job, I had some dental work done.. a handful of fillings. Lucky me, my insurance had lapsed days earlier. I had a quote for the work that needed to be done (and they had pinged my insurance prior so my initial payment was going to be under $100), but because of the lapse, afterwards, we easily worked out a cash payment plan, where one of the billing ladies admitted they surcharge insurers. What should've been around $2000 in work billed to insurance wound up being $1100 in cash directly. This mirrored other experiences I had over the years when insurance lapsed or in university when I declined insurance -- if you were dealing with people that did business ethically, understood the costs, or dealt with decent people who explained the costs (another element of ethics and/or relationship), you understood insurance in the equation unnecessarily inflated costs. This is why I've never been a fan of the insurance industry.. the encouragement of excess is simply not a good business decision, especially for the consumer, and the consumer is half the equation in a market, meaning it's an awful market choice, an unsustainable one. Then, don't get me started on how government helps mandate these prices/practices. 

 

The cheap part is preventative care and good habits, making life better yourself and those you take care of. The better we take care of ourselves, access the cheaper preventative care, the less we wind up needing any major, far more costly work done. This is where instilled values become all the more important. The encouragement of bad choices facilitates the unnecessary bloat of "problem solving" industries/jobs (e.g. "administrative"). This can segue more into the premise of the thread because we have these seemingly pointless bureaus and waste supposedly telling us how to be healthy but clearly not knowing **** all at best. At worst, people exacerbating unhealthy choices (or conflict and division) so they can create a problem out of thin air to solve (methodology to indefinite justification of bloat).

Not working that way for me.  Many people with insurance have PPO plans where we have to take a reduced fee, and the insurance sets the fee schedule.  Sucks. and I have started dropping some of the worst plans.  Even great insurance plans go by UCR (usual, customary, reasonable) and if the fee is too high it gets paid at the lower  rate.

On 6/10/2020 at 1:14 PM, laylalex said:

Oh no! Where did it end up?

 

Al's teeth are not bad for growing up with Scottish dentistry. He had a root canal at one point as an adult, private dentist in London who supposedly knew what he was doing. But about 2 years ago we were hanging out, eating popcorn and watching a film and crack! The whole tooth just crumbled. He had a huge gap and he had to get a post and crown. The American dentist was not impressed with the English dentist's work.

Of course most root canal teeth need to be protected with a crown, before they break and crumble!

[laylalex 7,289]

2 minutes ago, Neonred said:

You do know that after the age of about 20 your ability to heal continuously decreases/

...

Of course most root canal teeth need to be protected with a crown, before they break and crumble!

So I should get them taken out? Hm.

 

Of course he had a crown on there before with the root canal, but something broke off, I guess. You're the dentist!  I just know that there was a tooth and then...... there wasn't. What would have happened to cause the crown that was on there to detach or dislodge? Could what was left have just rotted away enough that there was nothing to support the crown? Forgive my ignorance, I'm lucky enough to have had nothing but check ups and cleanings my entire life.

[Ban Hammer 13,352]

7 minutes ago, Neonred said:

You do know that after the age of about 20 your ability to heal continuously decreases/

so does the ability to do something else continuously.

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

1 minute ago, Ban Hammer said:

so does the ability to do something else continuously.

Do not underestimate popsicle stocks and duct tape

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

7 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

Do not underestimate popsicle stocks and duct tape

Or professional room cleaners! 

 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

1 hour ago, Randyandyuni said:

Do not underestimate popsicle stocks and duct tape

I bought some popsicle stocks last year.  Sadly, they melted away...

[Ban Hammer 13,352]

31 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

I bought some popsicle stocks last year.  Sadly, they melted away...

i think we just got tboned.

 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

47 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

i think we just got tboned.

 

I think Randy got NB'd...

[Neonred 3,569]

8 hours ago, Ban Hammer said:

so does the ability to do something else continuously.

Sorry to hear about your problems.

[Neonred 3,569]

8 hours ago, laylalex said:

So I should get them taken out? Hm.

 

Of course he had a crown on there before with the root canal, but something broke off, I guess. You're the dentist!  I just know that there was a tooth and then...... there wasn't. What would have happened to cause the crown that was on there to detach or dislodge? Could what was left have just rotted away enough that there was nothing to support the crown? Forgive my ignorance, I'm lucky enough to have had nothing but check ups and cleanings my entire life.

Get them taken out?  If you have room for them AND you can keep them clean, then probably no.  Most common reason adults have to have wisdom teeth removed is that they get badly decayed.

 

Root canal teeth get brittle over time.  They have not only lost the nerve, but also the blood supply (yes, there is a blood vessel in there too).  Tooth was probably weakened from a large cavity prior to the root canal and crown.  Could have just decayed under that crown too.  Probably had to have a post and some build up after it broke off prior to making a new crown.  Many times it is broken down too badly to support a new crown, or it fractures down into the root making it non-restorable.  Then it's time for an extraction and perhaps an implant.