MEGATHREAD- All USA Flights from EU banned for next 30 days

[Steeleballz 7,550]

6 hours ago, Dashinka said:

The wife made it home safe and sound yesterday.  Not many questions by CBP in Dulles probably since the flight originated from Moscow.  They did ask her what countries she visited and when she told them she was in Russia for 23 days which was the case, there were no further questions.

 

   I'm glad everything went OK. Stay safe. 

 

   People who are complaining about restrictions, the view from inside an ICU is infinitely worse than being stuck at home. 

[LilyJ 1,258]

2 hours ago, Sego said:

I thought so too but for my process with my embassy, from searching information on-line to filling the DS-160 the K1 was always considered an immigrant visa. A little bit confusing. I guess it is a little in between situation. Moving with the intention to immigrate but not confirmed until marriage and filling for AOS.

Well, the DS160 is actually the application for non-immigrant visas, since DS260 is the one for immigrant visas, which further makes K1 nonimmigrant

[Wuozopo 4,293]

5 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Hopefully this will blow over soon.  There is encouraging news out of Korea where the new cases have slowed to a trickle in a little over four weeks.

Korea handled the virus much better than most places. They had way more testing available, identified exactly where the positive cases lived, and enforced social distancing early on. My country the UK was doing nothing much until a statement yesterday “suggesting” some social distancing. As evidence by all the people thinking they are going to travel soon, many do not realize it is going to get much worse because people won’t stay home and stop the exponential spread. 

[sl1pstream 551]

6 hours ago, Dashinka said:

I am surprised that K1s are not included, but technically a K1 is a non-immigrant visa with dual intent which allows for legal AOS.  Hopefully this will blow over soon.  There is encouraging news out of Korea where the new cases have slowed to a trickle in a little over four weeks.

The problem is that, unlike most of the rest of the world, Korea's actually pretty damn good at handling this crisis. There aren't a lot of other nations that are so efficient at testing and social distancing as they are. The rest of the planet will look more like Italy than Korea.

There's also no way that Russia is reporting the correct numbers,  so not having a full travel ban to include Russia is just going to extend this thing further.

[igoyougoduke 1,656]

Just now, sl1pstream said:

The problem is that, unlike most of the rest of the world, Korea's actually pretty damn good at handling this crisis. There aren't a lot of other nations that are so efficient at testing and social distancing as they are. The rest of the planet will look more like Italy than Korea.

There's also no way that Russia is reporting the correct numbers,  so not having a full travel ban to include Russia is just going to extend this thing further.

Every one is deflating the numbers with the exception of countries like Italy ( where everything is overwhelmed) , South Korea and Japan.  US, UK, Europe almost all the countries are #deflatevirus

[Steeleballz 7,550]

9 minutes ago, Donald120383 said:

Every one is deflating the numbers with the exception of countries like Italy ( where everything is overwhelmed) , South Korea and Japan.  US, UK, Europe almost all the countries are #deflatevirus

 

 

    I think South Korea's numbers are accurate to the extent that they are testing and isolating people early, and enabling the sickest people to get the treatment they need. It shows us how widespread the virus is and also that people are recovering with adequate medical care. Unfortunately Italy's figures are also probably accurate for a situation where the health care system gets overwhelmed and people can't get treated.

 

    Since the beginning we have been told that 80% of people have mild symptoms and recover quickly. What concerns me out of Italy is what's happening with the 20% of people that don't have mild symptoms. The numbers of people who need hospital care, oxygen support and ventilators is almost unbelievable. It's not just older people either. They have people in their 20's and 30's in ICU needing oxygen. Most will recover if they can get that treatment. Italy is already having to ration treatment and people that may have recovered with medical care are now dying because they can't get that care. 

[igoyougoduke 1,656]

1 minute ago, Steeleballz said:

 

 

    I think South Korea's numbers are accurate to the extent that they are testing and isolating people early, and enabling the sickest people to get the treatment they need. It shows us how widespread the virus is and also that people are recovering with adequate medical care. Unfortunately Italy's figures are also probably accurate for a situation where the health care system gets overwhelmed and people can't get treated.

 

    Since the beginning we have been told that 80% of people have mild symptoms and recover quickly. What concerns me out of Italy is what's happening with the 20% of people that don't have mild symptoms. The numbers of people who need hospital care, oxygen support and ventilators is almost unbelievable. It's not just older people either. They have people in their 20's and 30's in ICU needing oxygen. Most will recover if they can get that treatment. Italy is already having to ration treatment and people that may have recovered with medical care are now dying because they can't get that care. 

9 month old has it

 

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-nine-month-old-boy-contracts-covid-19-11959287

[Steeleballz 7,550]

5 minutes ago, Donald120383 said:

9 month old has it

 

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-nine-month-old-boy-contracts-covid-19-11959287

 

   I had no doubts kids were getting it. Thankfully most have had mild symptoms so far. 

[Dashinka 24,493]

37 minutes ago, sl1pstream said:

The problem is that, unlike most of the rest of the world, Korea's actually pretty damn good at handling this crisis. There aren't a lot of other nations that are so efficient at testing and social distancing as they are. The rest of the planet will look more like Italy than Korea.

There's also no way that Russia is reporting the correct numbers,  so not having a full travel ban to include Russia is just going to extend this thing further.

Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore learned lessons from the SARS outbreak and I certainly commend them for that.  We will see how this plays out for the US and the EU.  The US restricted travel from China pretty early on, but that was not the case for the EU.  I think the US did take a little longer to turn off the faucet from Europe, but time will tell.

[sl1pstream 551]

11 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore learned lessons from the SARS outbreak and I certainly commend them for that.  We will see how this plays out for the US and the EU.  The US restricted travel from China pretty early on, but that was not the case for the EU.  I think the US did take a little longer to turn off the faucet from Europe, but time will tell.

By the time they banned travel they already had multiple cases there. The travel ban, while necessary, isn't going to be the thing that decides how this goes. It's spreading and while travel restrictions definitely help stop the spread, they're less impactful than some other measutes, like testing and social distancing.

 

Besides, as long as people are still flying domestically, the virus is still being given the perfect environment to spread. Especially since it can apparently persist in the air for hours.

 

 

Edited March 18, 2020 by sl1pstream

[SmithJDaniel 0]

17 hours ago, LilyJ said:

Well, the DS160 is actually the application for non-immigrant visas, since DS260 is the one for immigrant visas, which further makes K1 nonimmigrant

I understand that the DS-160 is non-immigrant. However, the UK state visa appointment service has the K-1 listed withimmigrant visas? All very confusing

[Wuozopo 4,293]

1 hour ago, SmithJDaniel said:

I understand that the DS-160 is non-immigrant. However, the UK state visa appointment service has the K-1 listed withimmigrant visas? All very confusing

It is only a clerical thing for the Immigrant Visa Unit to handle K1s because the requirements like petition, proofs of relationship, medical, affidavit of support etc, are more akin to what the the IV folks process than say a tourist visa application/interview.  You’ll check status on the IV Unit site, and queue up in the short IV line to get in on interview day,  and your online status will even say Immigrant Visa after the interview. BUT within a few days, you will notice your online status switch to Nonimmigrant. That’s your clue that you have been put in your rightful group and are getting very close to your status switching to Issued, meaning the visa is printed. 

[SmithJDaniel 0]

6 minutes ago, Wuozopo said:

It is only a clerical thing for the Immigrant Visa Unit to handle K1s because the requirements like petition, proofs of relationship, medical, affidavit of support etc, are more akin to what the the IV folks process than say a tourist visa application/interview.  You’ll check status on the IV Unit site, and queue up in the short IV line to get in on interview day,  and your online status will even say Immigrant Visa after the interview. BUT within a few days, you will notice your online status switch to Nonimmigrant. That’s your clue that you have been put in your rightful group and are getting very close to your status switching to Issued, meaning the visa is printed. 

Many thanks, I was pretty sure this was the case, but times like these, grey areas like this seem to arise quickly!

[Rovii 0]

Does anyone know if this applies for Albania? My fiance got his passport with his k-1 visa a day before Trump's ban. I'm a U.S. citizen but currently in Albania with my fiance. Did Trump ban every EU country? I've read that there are only a couple countries banned for 30 days. I don't know whether its safe to travel now. 

[Crazy Cat 41,845]

10 minutes ago, Rovii said:

Does anyone know if this applies for Albania? My fiance got his passport with his k-1 visa a day before Trump's ban. I'm a U.S. citizen but currently in Albania with my fiance. Did Trump ban every EU country? I've read that there are only a couple countries banned for 30 days. I don't know whether its safe to travel now. 

All of the  Schengen Area is included in the European travel restriction......there are more than "only a couple countries" restricted.

 

EDIT:  She should call the airline and ask if flights are even available...

Edited March 19, 2020 by Lucky Cat