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5 minutes ago, Athy said:

I'm due to fly out on 26 March.

 

My airline is Norwegian Air - waiting in the queue right now. It's been busy all day.

 

 

I had read someone Norwegian were grounding all their planes. Have your checked your ticket online? Good luck! 

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6 minutes ago, Athy said:

wonder if any additional costs are involved.

The airlines are absorbing the additional cost of re-routing 

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Just now, ch3john said:

The airlines are absorbing the additional cost of re-routing 

Thanks for the response.

 

Do you know how the re-routing occurs? Is it random or is it discussed and you get a choice once checking in?

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56 minutes ago, LondonerCat said:

I had read someone Norwegian were grounding all their planes. Have your checked your ticket online? Good luck! 

Just got off the phone with them.

 

- They say that current flights haven't been re-directed.

- I asked if the demand drops (if only 5 passengers board the flight for example) whether the flight will be cancelled - I was told that it wouldn't.

- They say that their decisions will be based on government advice/law.

- They also mentioned that there may be an update on Sunday night from the U.S. government.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Athy said:

I asked if the demand drops (if only 5 passengers board the flight for example) whether the flight will be cancelled - I was told that it wouldn't.

That, I do not believe........Demand, among other things,  drives cancellations......they will certainly condense flights if they see fit, imo.

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1 minute ago, Lucky Cat said:

That, I do not believe........Demand, among other things,  drives cancellations......

Airlines often want to keep their ‘slots’ so May run drastically underused services so they don’t lose their flight times as I’ve heard they’re like gold dust!

8 minutes ago, Athy said:

Just got off the phone with them.

 

- They say that current flights haven't been re-directed.

- I asked if the demand drops (if only 5 passengers board the flight for example) whether the flight will be cancelled - I was told that it wouldn't.

- They say that their decisions will be based on government advice/law.

- They also mentioned that there may be an update on Sunday night from the U.S. government.

 

 

Glad they’re still flying - hopefully you’ll be OK actually getting there! 🙂 now we just need to know if we are legally allowed to come to the US during this time

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2 minutes ago, LondonerCat said:

Airlines often want to keep their ‘slots’ so May run drastically underused services so they don’t lose their flight times as I’ve heard they’re like gold dust!

I don't think flight times is a big concern right now......there has already been a HUGE reduction in the number of flights....

 

Calling the expert:  @JFH

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"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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3 minutes ago, LondonerCat said:

Airlines often want to keep their ‘slots’ so May run drastically underused services so they don’t lose their flight times as I’ve heard they’re like gold dust!

Glad they’re still flying - hopefully you’ll be OK actually getting there! 🙂 now we just need to know if we are legally allowed to come to the US during this time

One of us will get a response from the U.S. Embassy tomorrow! fingers crossed. 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Lucky Cat said:

I don't think flight times is a big concern right now......there has already been a HUGE reduction in the number of flights....

 

Calling the expert:  @JFH

The slots don’t really come into it anymore. We are under emergency measures. Let’s take AA and their 75% reduction in flights between the US and Europe. They have cancelled MUC - CLT and vv (Munich to Charlotte and back again) because CLT is not an approved arrival airport for health screening. They haven’t lost the slot. No one can operate that route at the moment as it’s not possible to bring passengers in through CLT. 

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NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

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Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

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20 minutes ago, Athy said:

Just got off the phone with them.

 

- They say that current flights haven't been re-directed.

- I asked if the demand drops (if only 5 passengers board the flight for example) whether the flight will be cancelled - I was told that it wouldn't.

- They say that their decisions will be based on government advice/law.

- They also mentioned that there may be an update on Sunday night from the U.S. government.

 

 

If only 5 pax show for a flight it may or may not be cancelled. It will depend on how many people are waiting at the other end for the flight back again and whether the aircraft can be kept at that airport for longer. Cancelling a flight is expensive, not only do you have to rebook the pax, the aircraft is needed for the next flight back again, the crew has to be accommodated, the parking fees for aircraft at airports are astronomical, etc. 

Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

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1 hour ago, LondonerCat said:

I had read someone Norwegian were grounding all their planes. Have your checked your ticket online? Good luck! 

Norway is closing all airports to all non-Norwegians from tomorrow. Makes sense that this will result in many flights being grounded. 

Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

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1 minute ago, JFH said:

If only 5 pax show for a flight it may or may not be cancelled. It will depend on how many people are waiting at the other end for the flight back again and whether the aircraft can be kept at that airport for longer. Cancelling a flight is expensive, not only do you have to rebook the pax, the aircraft is needed for the next flight back again, the crew has to be accommodated, the parking fees for aircraft at airports are astronomical, etc. 

Would you say that it's most likely going to continue as scheduled unless a government law is passed?

 

I didn't know any of the above details you listed out - it seems an incredibly arduous thing for an airline to go through in cancelling a flight. 

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1 minute ago, Athy said:

it seems an incredibly arduous thing for an airline to go through in cancelling a flight. 

I would think that flying an almost empty plane would also be expensive......

Edited by Lucky Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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3 minutes ago, Lucky Cat said:

I would think that flying an almost empty plane would also be expensive......

It could still carry cargo and mail.

Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

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Just now, JFH said:

It could still carry cargo and mail.

Good point.....it's nice to have an expert so available...🙂

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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