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Amidst the data and fears and hype surrounding the Wuhanvirus (a very current event), we can compare what happened at a military camp during the Spanish Flu.  Observations are welcome, especially from our veterans in terms of whether any parts of this could happen again today.  Am interested in the cover-up aspects, in that some think that the same is happening today with the Wuhanvirus.

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1918 brought a nightmarish flu epidemic to Iowa's Camp Dodge


Des Moines Register
Published 8:33 p.m. CT March 3, 2020 | Updated 1:47 p.m. CT March 9, 2020

A deadly influenza raced across the Earth in 1918, ultimately claiming 20 million victims.  An Army outpost in the middle of Iowa stood in its path.

Camp Dodge, just outside Des Moines, smelled of rotting bodies for weeks. [...]


Multipart story continues here: https://www.press-citizen.com/story/news/local/2020/03/03/influenza-outbreak-700-soldiers-died-1918-iowa-camp-dodge-johnston-army-base-national-guard-flu/2843939001/

 

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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   I've read many stories of mass graves from the 1918 flu epidemic. There was a story in National Geographic about it several years ago. I would be surprised if there were not more instances where things like this happened. 

 

  Medically we have a better understanding and ability to treat and isolate something like this nowadays, but it is still possible for something like this to spread fast and be difficult to treat. I remember reading about the Hantavirus outbreak where it was previously healthy young people being brought to ER with acute respiratory failure and there was just nothing they could do for them.

 

  I also think it would be harder to cover up now in places like the US. A hundred years ago, people were still buried out back in some places. It's hard to just disappear of the face of the earth now. People keep in touch with each other daily instead of taking weeks by letter. Deaths are registered. Someone would know and take it to the media.  

 

  

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Excellent observations, as usual.  I wonder whether cover-up ability would still be stronger in the military than in public venues.  Maybe one of our veterans here can weigh in.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

 

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