I-751 (Removal of Conditions) April 2020 Filers (merged)

[Hamilton 511]

18 hours ago, S*UK said:

 

 

Wow lol. I'm betting ours was only 75 pages or so....could be wrong. For anyone who's interested we had: 2 years tax returns, joint bank account opening letters, joint account statements for a few months, apartments leases for 2 apartments, deed to our house, homeowners insurance for 2 years, letters from our HOA, car insurance joint policy, life insurance policies for the both of us, health insurance printouts, military ID cards, military LES, military emergency contact data, flight documents from trips and about 15 pictures of us together and with family/friends.

That actually sounds like more documents than what we sent, even though you had fewer pages. 

 

I dunno. My wife is more chill about it -- her opinion is that we are clearly a legitimate couple, and so even if they happen to want more evidence, things will work out. Unlike her, I'm a worrier 😂

[Hamilton 511]

14 hours ago, Chicken7585 said:

I did an informal survey in a FB group I'm a part of related to Removal of Conditions and the vast majority did not have an interview. Unscientific but still quite heartening.

Thanks for sharing. I think it's more uncommon to have an ROC interview if you've already had an AOS interview. From my understanding, it's more often the folks who came on K1s, who maybe didn't have a couples interview already?

[S*UK 543]

4 hours ago, Hamilton said:

Thanks for sharing. I think it's more uncommon to have an ROC interview if you've already had an AOS interview. From my understanding, it's more often the folks who came on K1s, who maybe didn't have a couples interview already?

Just curious... what other visa would you have come on besides a K1 that you would need to remove conditions on a GC? 
I heard the same thing. I think a lot of K1 couples already had interviews for AOS. We sure did

[Angelica48 121]

1 hour ago, S*UK said:

Just curious... what other visa would you have come on besides a K1 that you would need to remove conditions on a GC? 
I heard the same thing. I think a lot of K1 couples already had interviews for AOS. We sure did

Any Green Card based marriage, AOS from student, tourist, work visa, etc.  I adjusted from a tourist visa (visa waiver program), hubby & I were interviewed as well.

Edited April 17, 2020 by Angelica48

[Chicken7585 36]

 

6 hours ago, Hamilton said:

My wife is more chill about it -- her opinion is that we are clearly a legitimate couple, and so even if they happen to want more evidence, things will work out. Unlike her, I'm a worrier 😂

@Hamilton , I don't know if you or your spouse is the US Citizen - in my case, my spouse who is the US Citizen has never experienced the trials of the US Immigration system. I have been on an F1 visa since 2005 and then a H1B visa since 2007, and then we got married in 2018. Even as a legal immigrant through this entire period (2005 - present), important life decisions were made based on US Immigration timelines, documents, and visa application submissions. Each time I had to get a visa renewed, I had to get my I-797 document here, leave the country, get my new visa overseas then re-enter. I cannot tell you how many times I have done this. If anything got delayed (mostly on the US immigration side), I was stuck not knowing if I would be able to return in time for job, work, life, events, pets and loved ones. 

 

All this to say that with the USCIS, in my opinion, it doesn't matter if you or your spouse *thinks* that you are clearly a legitimate couple. It is on you and your spouse to go out of your way to PROVE that your marriage is legitimate beyond a shadow of a doubt. When we went for our AOS interview, the best piece of advice we got from the IO was to turn off paperless billing for everything and just collect all the paper bills and put it in a box. My citizen spouse would always laugh at me for doing this but it made the whole I-751 package assembly very easy last month. I don't think any couple that DIDN'T have to prove their marriage was legitimate would hang on to paper bills from 2 years ago. I guess we have probably behaved and spent money and acted differently than we would as a couple if we didn't have an I-751 to file in the future. That may mean taking more photos of you and your spouse in groups than you would have naturally done before. It may mean saving every greeting card you get with the envelope it's addressed on. All this is not "natural" but it goes a long way to making sure that you provide an abundance of evidence later that cross references and corroborates each other. You want to send as much as possible without overdoing it, that definitively tells a story of your relationship as told by all these renter leases and utility bills and greeting cards and social media posts. Just saying that USCIS should look at you and just *know* that you are legitimate is not helping your case.

Honestly, I don't mind doing this because I'm aware of how difficult it is to become a permanent resident in this country and how many people would give anything to trade places with me. If I have the evidence and it helps us, I'm going to neatly organize it and send it. Immigration is not a right - it's a privilege - and everything I can do to make them look at our case in a more favorable light and speed it along, I'm going to do! Is it "fair"? Heck yes for the privilege it will eventually provide!

Sorry for the long post/rant!

Edited April 17, 2020 by Chicken7585

[k123 3]

6 hours ago, Hamilton said:

Thanks for sharing. I think it's more uncommon to have an ROC interview if you've already had an AOS interview. From my understanding, it's more often the folks who came on K1s, who maybe didn't have a couples interview already?

My wife came on cr-1, we never had couple interview, only she had interview at consulate to get the visa. Just submitted ROC packet this week and our case was assigned to MSC. Based on MSC thread for i-751 it seems cases going to MSC are getting interviewed for ROC. 

[S*UK 543]

42 minutes ago, k123 said:

My wife came on cr-1, we never had couple interview, only she had interview at consulate to get the visa. Just submitted ROC packet this week and our case was assigned to MSC. Based on MSC thread for i-751 it seems cases going to MSC are getting interviewed for ROC. 

Good luck!
Interview, of course, is always down to the discretion of USCIS. No one is guaranteed to not be called in for interview.

If you have never been interviewed as a couple, I imagine its even more likely that they will want to interview you. In my experience, the interview was simple, quick and more of an informal conversation. Nothing to worry about if you're in a legitimate marriage. 

[Angelica48 121]

Update. I just got a text notification earlier saying case was received with receipt #  WAC209009xxxx.  👍🙂

 

Good luck to us all! 

[Hamilton 511]

6 hours ago, Chicken7585 said:

 

@Hamilton , I don't know if you or your spouse is the US Citizen - in my case, my spouse who is the US Citizen has never experienced the trials of the US Immigration system. I have been on an F1 visa since 2005 and then a H1B visa since 2007, and then we got married in 2018. Even as a legal immigrant through this entire period (2005 - present), important life decisions were made based on US Immigration timelines, documents, and visa application submissions. Each time I had to get a visa renewed, I had to get my I-797 document here, leave the country, get my new visa overseas then re-enter. I cannot tell you how many times I have done this. If anything got delayed (mostly on the US immigration side), I was stuck not knowing if I would be able to return in time for job, work, life, events, pets and loved ones. 

 

All this to say that with the USCIS, in my opinion, it doesn't matter if you or your spouse *thinks* that you are clearly a legitimate couple. It is on you and your spouse to go out of your way to PROVE that your marriage is legitimate beyond a shadow of a doubt. When we went for our AOS interview, the best piece of advice we got from the IO was to turn off paperless billing for everything and just collect all the paper bills and put it in a box. My citizen spouse would always laugh at me for doing this but it made the whole I-751 package assembly very easy last month. I don't think any couple that DIDN'T have to prove their marriage was legitimate would hang on to paper bills from 2 years ago. I guess we have probably behaved and spent money and acted differently than we would as a couple if we didn't have an I-751 to file in the future. That may mean taking more photos of you and your spouse in groups than you would have naturally done before. It may mean saving every greeting card you get with the envelope it's addressed on. All this is not "natural" but it goes a long way to making sure that you provide an abundance of evidence later that cross references and corroborates each other. You want to send as much as possible without overdoing it, that definitively tells a story of your relationship as told by all these renter leases and utility bills and greeting cards and social media posts. Just saying that USCIS should look at you and just *know* that you are legitimate is not helping your case.

Honestly, I don't mind doing this because I'm aware of how difficult it is to become a permanent resident in this country and how many people would give anything to trade places with me. If I have the evidence and it helps us, I'm going to neatly organize it and send it. Immigration is not a right - it's a privilege - and everything I can do to make them look at our case in a more favorable light and speed it along, I'm going to do! Is it "fair"? Heck yes for the privilege it will eventually provide!

Sorry for the long post/rant!

I think you misunderstood my post. I was just laughing that my wife, as a US citizen, hasn't ever had to really worry about the trials and tribulations that come with navigating immigration, and so she's a lot more relaxed about it. I obviously don't think that being a legitimate couple means not bothering to present extensive evidence 😂  As I mentioned above, we collected tons of evidence for our AOS and ROC packages, so I'm not sure why you're trying to explain the process to me.

 

 

[Chicken7585 36]

26 minutes ago, Hamilton said:

I think you misunderstood my post. I was just laughing that my wife, as a US citizen, hasn't ever had to really worry about the trials and tribulations that come with navigating immigration, and so she's a lot more relaxed about it. I obviously don't think that being a legitimate couple means not bothering to present extensive evidence 😂  As I mentioned above, we collected tons of evidence for our AOS and ROC packages, so I'm not sure why you're trying to explain the process to me.

 

 

Got it -- I was in a mood lol 😆😆

[Pats5415 97]

8 hours ago, Chicken7585 said:

 

@Hamilton , I don't know if you or your spouse is the US Citizen - in my case, my spouse who is the US Citizen has never experienced the trials of the US Immigration system. I have been on an F1 visa since 2005 and then a H1B visa since 2007, and then we got married in 2018. Even as a legal immigrant through this entire period (2005 - present), important life decisions were made based on US Immigration timelines, documents, and visa application submissions. Each time I had to get a visa renewed, I had to get my I-797 document here, leave the country, get my new visa overseas then re-enter. I cannot tell you how many times I have done this. If anything got delayed (mostly on the US immigration side), I was stuck not knowing if I would be able to return in time for job, work, life, events, pets and loved ones. 

 

All this to say that with the USCIS, in my opinion, it doesn't matter if you or your spouse *thinks* that you are clearly a legitimate couple. It is on you and your spouse to go out of your way to PROVE that your marriage is legitimate beyond a shadow of a doubt. When we went for our AOS interview, the best piece of advice we got from the IO was to turn off paperless billing for everything and just collect all the paper bills and put it in a box. My citizen spouse would always laugh at me for doing this but it made the whole I-751 package assembly very easy last month. I don't think any couple that DIDN'T have to prove their marriage was legitimate would hang on to paper bills from 2 years ago. I guess we have probably behaved and spent money and acted differently than we would as a couple if we didn't have an I-751 to file in the future. That may mean taking more photos of you and your spouse in groups than you would have naturally done before. It may mean saving every greeting card you get with the envelope it's addressed on. All this is not "natural" but it goes a long way to making sure that you provide an abundance of evidence later that cross references and corroborates each other. You want to send as much as possible without overdoing it, that definitively tells a story of your relationship as told by all these renter leases and utility bills and greeting cards and social media posts. Just saying that USCIS should look at you and just *know* that you are legitimate is not helping your case.

Honestly, I don't mind doing this because I'm aware of how difficult it is to become a permanent resident in this country and how many people would give anything to trade places with me. If I have the evidence and it helps us, I'm going to neatly organize it and send it. Immigration is not a right - it's a privilege - and everything I can do to make them look at our case in a more favorable light and speed it along, I'm going to do! Is it "fair"? Heck yes for the privilege it will eventually provide!

Sorry for the long post/rant!

Couldn't agree with you more. Since the AOS start I always save everything that could help my process. Even if it seems irrelevant at the time, every bit helps. The more evidence the better.

[Marta Proniagina 119]

Hi everyone! 

I am currently working on our package to send this month and am a bit worried that we might not have enough evidence.

My list is:

Our son's birth certificate

joint health and dental insurances 

utility bill with both of our names on it

Our son's immunization record with both our names and address

letter from the hospital addressing both of us

IRS tax form for the last 2 years

pictures with together and with friends/family

2 mail envelopes from friends on both of our names

 

We don't have a joint bank account or any other joint documents. Do you think that would be ebough and shall I write an explanation of why we don't have other joint docs?

Thank you!

 

[Angelica48 121]

3 minutes ago, Marta Proniagina said:

Hi everyone! 

I am currently working on our package to send this month and am a bit worried that we might not have enough evidence.

My list is:

Our son's birth certificate

joint health and dental insurances 

utility bill with both of our names on it

Our son's immunization record with both our names and address

letter from the hospital addressing both of us

IRS tax form for the last 2 years

pictures with together and with friends/family

2 mail envelopes from friends on both of our names

 

We don't have a joint bank account or any other joint documents. Do you think that would be ebough and shall I write an explanation of why we don't have other joint docs?

Thank you!

 

Do you live in a house (mortgage) or lease an apartment? Do you and your spouse own/lease a vehicle? Also include previous and current DLs/IDs showing joint residence.  You should utilize https://www.irs.gov/individuals/get-transcript to get a copy of your tax transcripts from the IRS.

 

You should definitely include a summary/explanation of your financial practices/situation, what you stated above.  That's what we did with our ROC package.  

 

Don't forget to follow https://www.uscis.gov/forms/forms-information/form-filing-tips in assembling your package. Lastly, do not send it early, as to not risk getting it rejected. You can check here https://www.uscis.gov/forms/uscis-early-filing-calculator

 

Good luck! 👍

[Marta Proniagina 119]

6 minutes ago, Angelica48 said:

Do you live in a house (mortgage) or lease an apartment? Do you and your spouse own/lease a vehicle? Also include previous and current DLs/IDs showing joint residence.  You should utilize https://www.irs.gov/individuals/get-transcript to get a copy of your tax transcripts from the IRS.

 

You should definitely include a summary/explanation of your financial practices/situation, what you stated above.  That's what we did with our ROC package.  

 

Don't forget to follow https://www.uscis.gov/forms/forms-information/form-filing-tips in assembling your package. Lastly, do not send it early, as to not risk getting it rejected. You can check here https://www.uscis.gov/forms/uscis-early-filing-calculator

 

Good luck! 👍

 

Thank you very much! My husband owns the house, so there's no mortgage or lease, and the vehicale is on his name as well as it all was bought before we got married. 

And I seem to have a problem with the irs transcripts as I need to show "your personal account number from a credit card, mortgage, home equity loan, home equity line of credit or car loan" and neither me тor my husband have any of these.

Edited April 18, 2020 by Marta Proniagina

[Chicken7585 36]

3 hours ago, Marta Proniagina said:

Hi everyone! 

I am currently working on our package to send this month and am a bit worried that we might not have enough evidence.

My list is:

Our son's birth certificate

joint health and dental insurances 

utility bill with both of our names on it

Our son's immunization record with both our names and address

letter from the hospital addressing both of us

IRS tax form for the last 2 years

pictures with together and with friends/family

2 mail envelopes from friends on both of our names

 

We don't have a joint bank account or any other joint documents. Do you think that would be ebough and shall I write an explanation of why we don't have other joint docs?

Thank you!

 

Two links that were very helpful for me were: 

• https://learn.simplecitizen.com/immigration-support/form-i-751-how-to-prove-your-marriage-is-legitimate/
• https://citizenpath.com/proving-a-bona-fide-marriage/

I want to also include here the list the USCIS officer handed me when we did our AOS interview. 

 

 

I was able to apply OCR on this document above to get this: 

U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services
Atlanta Field Office
U.S. Department of Homeland Security
2150 Parklake Drive NE

Evidence to submit when you file your 1-751

Joint marital documents in support of the validity of your relationship should include, but is

not limited to the following:

• Photocopy of petitioner and the beneficiary driver's license or state issued identification;
• Life Insurance Policies that show the other spouse as the beneficiary;
• Copy of birth certificates for all children born to the petitioner and the beneficiary in this relationship;
• Copy of lease or evidence of mortgage and evidence of rent or mortgage payments from the date of your marriage to present time;
• Copy of all utility bills (Water, Gas, Telephone, GA Power) from the date of your marriage to present time;
• Copy of all bank account statement, joint and individual, showing you and your spouse have combined financial resources such as (joint checking and saving account statements showing deposits or withdrawals, joint installment, other loans or credit card account statements) from the date of your marriage to present time;
• Affidavits must be sworn to or affirmed by third parties people having knowledge of the bona fides of the marital relationship. Each affidavit must contain the full name, telephone number, address, date and place of birth of person making the affidavit and his or her relationship to the petitioner or beneficiary. (Such persons may be required to testify before an immigration officer as to the information contained in the affidavit).
• Copy of IRS transcripts for Federal taxes for petitioner and the beneficiary from the date of your marriage to present time; 
• Copy of pay statements for petitioner and the beneficiary from the date of your marriage to present time;
• Evidence of automobile insurance coverage for all vehicles registered to petitioner and the beneficiary from the date of your marriage to present time;
• Evidence that you and your spouse have made estate, health and financial planning arrangements with each other such as (a will, a trust or durable power of attorney for health care or property or both) from the date of your marriage to present time;
• Any other documentation which is relevant to establish that the marriage was not entered into in order to evade the immigration laws of the United State from the date of your marriage to present time;

 

Edited April 18, 2020 by Chicken7585
Added OCR version of document