Islamabad us embassy CR1 interview

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2 hours ago, Love To Teach said:

I know what I know. Thanks for calling me a liar. I only wish you the same "fun" interview we had. These things are all true. I really don't care what you think. Do you think most people are brave enough to file a complaint and probably get a revenge turn-down again? Believe what you want....people are afraid to tell what happened to them because of people like you who call them liars....

 

But you put it on a public forum. You are obviously not afraid of any form of retaliation and your husband has yet to be granted a visa so it’s still at the mercy of the embassy staff. 
 

There is obviously far more to this story than you are telling - and that’s fine, you don’t have to reveal all the details to total strangers. But don’t scare others off with wild claims of murder and brutality when the majority of users here who have been through the Islamabad embassy have reported nothing of the sort. I agree that Islamabad is a tough embassy compared to many others but applicants being threatened with murder? No way. 
 

Why would you wish such an experience on me? What have I done to affect your case? I know you have often made veiled comments that I didn’t deserve my immigrant visa because of my husband’s past and I have told you numerous times that the good or bad conduct of the petitioner is mostly irrelevant (AWA being a notable exception). I know it must be painful for you to see those whom you consider “less deserving” being granted their visas or having an easier ride through the embassy. But that’s life. It’s never fair. I totally understand that. I feel the same way when I see people who are able to have children and I went through 7 failed in-vitro attempts. Do I still grieve that I’m childless and now 46 with all hope gone? You betcha I do. Do I begrudge others their children? Absolutely not. 
 

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2 hours ago, Abcd1234 said:

So different culture,  and if she is older than you, than in Pakistan expect it to be not an easy task. Family not much involved in marriage also a difficult task in Islamabad embassy because of high fraud cases. 

   I would suggest to have a lot of time together ,atleast 2,3 visits if not more, and have a lots of evidences,  otherwise i am afraid it could be an uphill in Pakistan and most likely reason would be bonafide relationship. So make sure you are covered extremely good on banafide relationship with many visits , and a lot of time together,  if your families get involved more it would be better. These kind of cases in my experience so far have had hard time approving in Pakistan unless there is overwhelming evidences of being together. Also financially if you are sending her money, in Pakistan it could be taken as paying to get greencard as many people do it. Rather petitioner sending money is considered good thing. 

   Different culture and possibly religion? You must have a lot in plate, not scaring you but making you ready so know that no.1 thing that they would focus on your case is most likely be banafide relationship. So i would say spend months together seriously.

we both r helping each others with money like usually couples do nd right they gonna focus on bonafide marriage about religious am not sure it will be a problem but i talk with indian laywers in dubai they said u don't hve to proof anything they pick nd choose who going to get visa who dont they already knows each nd everything 

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3 minutes ago, moneeb Iqbal said:

but i talk with indian laywers in dubai they said u don't hve to proof anything

Are these people supposed to be experts in US immigration?  

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20 minutes ago, Lucky Cat said:

Are these people supposed to be experts in US immigration?  

yes they r immigration laywers 

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4 hours ago, moneeb Iqbal said:

yes they r immigration laywers 

A lawyer who says u don't have to prove anything specifically in the case u r in, he just wants to take buisness from u and make money or he knows nothing about us immigration.

   How many times you guys met? How long each time? Was the marraige done in dubai? Islamically? Do they have civil marriage in dubai? They dont pick n choose,if your case looks genuine 90%(just my own nos , no statistics available) of time you get visa, if not different culture and religion,  small meeting, hardly a visit or 2, most like it gets denied. 

   Catch: have a lot of time together,  if you r real couple maybe stay together whole year, have friends and family involved if you can, so it doesn't seem you r hiding marriage and are going to divorce once you get green card.

   So have a lot of time together otherwise you will be wasting time and money, no lawyer can do anything, instead spend that money being together , honestly i have seen many case like you getting denied for bonafide relationship,  so if you are a real couple then you need to prove it to them specially in cases like your and high fraud countries,  there is no way of getting around but to have as much time together as possible.

Edited March 8, 2020 by Abcd1234

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On 3/7/2020 at 12:05 PM, Love To Teach said:

We had one of the worst interviews at the Pakistani Embassy 4 years ago. We were denied, had to reapply. We are waiting for my husband to get his German work visa, as he has a job waiting at the Marriott Hotel there. He has worked the past year in Dubai at the Marriott, so his interview is scheduled for Abu Dabi. But we are waiting for him to get to Germany to change our interview to Frankfort so we don't have to run back and forth. And you can bet I will be there with him, even if I have to sit on a street corner. Go read our story. They used my 4 divorces to harass him into falsely saying he was still married to his ex..which he isn't. Since then, his ex, children, and neighbors testified before the high court that they had been divorced for years, but USCIS didn't care. At the Pakistan Embassy,  they took him in a small room, berated and harassed him, threatened him until he wrote what they dictated. They told him he would never set foot on American soil...which he took as a threat. He was so worried about what they might do to his family, he fell apart. He is a quiet, honest man....not a great thing to be in corrupt Pakistan. He couldn't even think straight enough to tell them to look at his divorce papers. He just kept telling them that he was divorced. But they would not let up on him until they forced him to write a false confession. He left in total shock, and it has taken a piece of his heart out of him.

 

 There is no recording of the interview, of course. They have been known to threaten people with hanging, have thrown papers into people's faces, create confusion during the interview until the person doesn't know what they are saying, called us liars, accused us of having our papers faked, laughed at us for my divorces, and on and on. They use the local Pakistani people to do their dirty work and harassment, while the US CO's look on. They plan ahead of what they will do. They had papers laying on the table for my husband to "confess" to their lies. It is disgraceful what goes on there.

 

We filed a formal complaint, they don't care. We had to start over. We have known each other 9 years, married 4, I have made 11 trips to see him. My advice is to take a lawyer with you and have your spouse with you. I blame myself for not being at the interview and not taking a lawyer with us. I never dreamed that an older peaceful man who had never gotten into any kind of trouble would be treated like that. I stupidly never thought the US Embassies would allow people to be threatened into false confessions. It was as if he was a prisoner....they did everything but beat him with a billy club. He was so shocked, he fell apart and only wanted to escape. I wish anyone who has to interact with anyone there good luck. Don't sign anything, even if they threaten you because they will use it against you and lie about it. For sure, take a lawyer with you.

 

It appears that younger Muslim couples don't get the treatment we got, though we know of other couples who have been treated horribly there. They break the rules of the embassy, which state they are to treat people with respect and not harass them. Just don't give in to their harassment. God knows the truth. They can't break us up, we will never give up. When I met my hubby, I was just getting ready to turn 60. Now I am 69, and time is running out. BUT we don't care, we are going to stay together no matter what.

UPDATE: My husband had his second interview in Abu Dhabi and was denied again. They were nice to him, at least. The senator's office said the Islamabad Embassy said we had a permanent band. We have never been told that and were never given a paper stating that. We have a lawyer filing an appeal. He doesn't understand why they would have given us another interview, etc., if we had a permanent band. We have spent the last several years with my husband being in and out of work due to covid, hotel shutdowns (he's in the hsopitality business), planes not flying etc.  My husband developed  PTSD since that Islamabad interview, has had a heart attack, and covid twice. His health is shot after that interview. He has continued to have bunches of stress symptoms that he did not have previously. But we continue to say we will not give up. He is now working in Abu Dhabi at a job he loves. I have just visited him for the first time in 2 years due to covid and health issues. We had set up 7 meetings, but they didn't pan out because of various reasons. We have now known each other for 11 years, married for 6.5 , and have suffered many health issues, many stress related. However, we are still together and have not given up. The sad part is we are both older and are suffering health issues.

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4 hours ago, Love To Teach said:

UPDATE: My husband had his second interview in Abu Dhabi and was denied again. They were nice to him, at least. The senator's office said the Islamabad Embassy said we had a permanent band. We have never been told that and were never given a paper stating that. We have a lawyer filing an appeal. He doesn't understand why they would have given us another interview, etc., if we had a permanent band. We have spent the last several years with my husband being in and out of work due to covid, hotel shutdowns (he's in the hsopitality business), planes not flying etc.  My husband developed  PTSD since that Islamabad interview, has had a heart attack, and covid twice. His health is shot after that interview. He has continued to have bunches of stress symptoms that he did not have previously. But we continue to say we will not give up. He is now working in Abu Dhabi at a job he loves. I have just visited him for the first time in 2 years due to covid and health issues. We had set up 7 meetings, but they didn't pan out because of various reasons. We have now known each other for 11 years, married for 6.5 , and have suffered many health issues, many stress related. However, we are still together and have not given up. The sad part is we are both older and are suffering health issues.

At some point you may need to consider just throwing in the towel and moving to live with him.  Otherwise, it looks like you will keep tossing time and money into a bottomless pit, as he is never going to get an immigrant visa for the US.  

 

Permanent bar will not be overcome with a lawyer, no matter how much money you spend.

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15 hours ago, Love To Teach said:

UPDATE: My husband had his second interview in Abu Dhabi and was denied again. They were nice to him, at least. The senator's office said the Islamabad Embassy said we had a permanent band. We have never been told that and were never given a paper stating that. We have a lawyer filing an appeal. He doesn't understand why they would have given us another interview, etc., if we had a permanent band. We have spent the last several years with my husband being in and out of work due to covid, hotel shutdowns (he's in the hsopitality business), planes not flying etc.  My husband developed  PTSD since that Islamabad interview, has had a heart attack, and covid twice. His health is shot after that interview. He has continued to have bunches of stress symptoms that he did not have previously. But we continue to say we will not give up. He is now working in Abu Dhabi at a job he loves. I have just visited him for the first time in 2 years due to covid and health issues. We had set up 7 meetings, but they didn't pan out because of various reasons. We have now known each other for 11 years, married for 6.5 , and have suffered many health issues, many stress related. However, we are still together and have not given up. The sad part is we are both older and are suffering health issues.

How much will the appeal cost? How long could you live together over there if you stopped the process to move to the USA?  There is a point where you will have to discuss alternative solutions.  I do not know how old you are, but time together might be worth so much more than time in the USA.  Wishing you the best.

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On 3/7/2020 at 1:49 PM, JFH said:

You don’t even believe that yourself. Where is the evidence of this if it is “known”? I’ve yet to see a VJ member report this type of action. 

I talked to the person. He was from Pakistan. Why would he make that up? My husband talked to him also. We also know several other couples that were harrassed, intimidated, and treated horribly. However, my husband was intimidated enough to write what they told him to write. We regret it every single day of our lives.

Edited September 29, 2023 by Love To Teach
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