Can someone share their experience joining the Navy with conditional GC?

[Tom Tran 0]

Hello eveyone, have anyone here have any experience joining the Navy with a Conditional GC?

I just got my Conditional GC and would like to join the Navy. Will I be able to apply citizenship after bootcamp (if yes, how does it work ? (if you don't mind giving me some detail)), or do I have to wait after serving for one year? I understand that the Conditional GC is good for two year, so what happen after it expire and I'm still not be eligible for applying for citizenship?

[Duke & Marie 1,389]

53 minutes ago, Tom Tran said:

Hello eveyone, have anyone here have any experience joining the Navy with a Conditional GC?

I just got my Conditional GC and would like to join the Navy. Will I be able to apply citizenship after bootcamp (if yes, how does it work ? (if you don't mind giving me some detail)), or do I have to wait after serving for one year? I understand that the Conditional GC is good for two year, so what happen after it expire and I'm still not be eligible for applying for citizenship?

It’s my understanding that you have to be a LPR and have served for over 1 year before you can apply..  

 

in saying this, I don’t think conditional GC applies, because your not yet permanent  it’s conditional, I think you need ROC first but could be wrong. 

 

https://www.uscis.gov/military/naturalization-through-military-service

Edited March 6, 2020 by Duke & Marie

[Trav228 17]

So first thing first you’ll not be able to file for your citizenship right after boot camp!,you have to be 180 days (6 months) in active duty before you’re eligible for naturalization through the military!, secondly yes you can file for your citizenship with your 2 years conditional permanent residency!...I’m a conditional permanent resident and I’m in the military!,my citizenship application was sent to Uscis about 2 weeks ago

[Tom Tran 0]

On 3/6/2020 at 12:44 PM, Trav228 said:

So first thing first you’ll not be able to file for your citizenship right after boot camp!,you have to be 180 days (6 months) in active duty before you’re eligible for naturalization through the military!, secondly yes you can file for your citizenship with your 2 years conditional permanent residency!...I’m a conditional permanent resident and I’m in the military!,my citizenship application was sent to Uscis about 2 weeks ago

What form did you submit? Did you submit I-751 (remove of condition) and N-400 together or just N-400? Did you get you conditional GC through marriage? Did Navy help you with the paper work?

[Trav228 17]

5 hours ago, Tom Tran said:

What form did you submit? Did you submit I-751 (remove of condition) and N-400 together or just N-400? Did you get you conditional GC through marriage? Did Navy help you with the paper work?

Well active duty service members aren’t required to file l-751 if they already filed N-400!,that’s what they told me at Uscis over the phone Monday I’ll be calling again to ask someone else from Uscis to hear what they say,yes I got my green card through marriage!.the navy do help you with your paper works!,they file and sign your paper works for you!...

[Tom Tran 0]

On 3/8/2020 at 4:56 AM, Trav228 said:

Well active duty service members aren’t required to file l-751 if they already filed N-400!,that’s what they told me at Uscis over the phone Monday I’ll be calling again to ask someone else from Uscis to hear what they say,yes I got my green card through marriage!.the navy do help you with your paper works!,they file and sign your paper works for you!...

I just went to the recruiter office today to start the paper work. May I ask which boot camp did you join? Is the RDC always on the yelling at everyone like what I see in the video? Also does bootcamp count toward your active service? Did you file for citizenship after bootcamp or while in bootcamp?

 

Did the USCIS confirm that you don't need to file I-751?

 

I'm really appreciated that you replied and give me update.

Edited March 11, 2020 by Tom Tran

[Trav228 17]

4 hours ago, Tom Tran said:

I just went to the recruiter office today to start the paper work. May I ask which boot camp did you join? Is the RDC always on the yelling at everyone like what I see in the video? Also does bootcamp count toward your active service? Did you file for citizenship after bootcamp or while in bootcamp?

 

Did the USCIS confirm that you don't need to file I-751?

 

I'm really appreciated that you replied and give me update.

I’m in the navy so my boot camp was in Great Lakes,ILLINOIS!...to be honest my RDC’s weren’t bad at all,they weren’t but that still don’t say you’ll have the same luck! For the first couple of weeks they’re going to yell a lot you just have to keep your mouth shut and don’t look start in their eye’s,it’s also up to how the division that you’re in is doing also,are they keeping the place clean,do they talk too much etc!,it’s not bad at all trust me!...so you have to be in active Duty for 6 months in order to file for your citizenship ,so you won’t be able to file for your citizenship  right after boot camp!,you have to wait 4 more months after Completion of boot camp...

 

 

so every time I call Uscis I get a different response from the Uscis Agents...some say it’s not required to file it because I’m a service member but some say it’s but to file it to keep on the safe side!,but I’ll not be filling mine!,I still have 3 months and 2 weeks on my green card.

 

so yesterday morning I called Uscis and they say that they have just uploaded my Citizenship to the system and I’ll have to wait a few weeks for my receipt notice and also my biometric appointment!,so in the afternoon I called back and a really nice lady from Uscis told me that she’s going to speed up the process for me so I can get my biometric done!,so In the evening she emailed me my appointment for my biometric and receipt notice! Yay so today I’ll be walking in to do my biometric (finger print)

 

also no problem!,if you need to talk to me personally you Could inbox me and we can share contact!,it’s no problem helping you because I wish I had help a few months ago! I got you 👌🏽

[ohcoffeeeyes 120]

10 hours ago, Trav228 said:

I’m in the navy so my boot camp was in Great Lakes,ILLINOIS!...to be honest my RDC’s weren’t bad at all,they weren’t but that still don’t say you’ll have the same luck! For the first couple of weeks they’re going to yell a lot you just have to keep your mouth shut and don’t look start in their eye’s,it’s also up to how the division that you’re in is doing also,are they keeping the place clean,do they talk too much etc!,it’s not bad at all trust me!...so you have to be in active Duty for 6 months in order to file for your citizenship ,so you won’t be able to file for your citizenship  right after boot camp!,you have to wait 4 more months after Completion of boot camp...

 

 

so every time I call Uscis I get a different response from the Uscis Agents...some say it’s not required to file it because I’m a service member but some say it’s but to file it to keep on the safe side!,but I’ll not be filling mine!,I still have 3 months and 2 weeks on my green card.

 

so yesterday morning I called Uscis and they say that they have just uploaded my Citizenship to the system and I’ll have to wait a few weeks for my receipt notice and also my biometric appointment!,so in the afternoon I called back and a really nice lady from Uscis told me that she’s going to speed up the process for me so I can get my biometric done!,so In the evening she emailed me my appointment for my biometric and receipt notice! Yay so today I’ll be walking in to do my biometric (finger print)

 

also no problem!,if you need to talk to me personally you Could inbox me and we can share contact!,it’s no problem helping you because I wish I had help a few months ago! I got you 👌🏽

Hey man I'm going to walk into the recruiters office first day I get my greencard, I already talked to a navy recruiter but I have already settled on Army (navy recruiter is a friend of my FIL he said he'd talk to me about what I'd need)

 

I just wanna know how long did it take you to join? I know a while back it was quite hard but I heard they changed it so its the exact same for LPR's as for citizens

[Panda & Bear 11]

On 3/11/2020 at 6:10 PM, ohcoffeeeyes said:

Hey man I'm going to walk into the recruiters office first day I get my greencard, I already talked to a navy recruiter but I have already settled on Army (navy recruiter is a friend of my FIL he said he'd talk to me about what I'd need)

 

I just wanna know how long did it take you to join? I know a while back it was quite hard but I heard they changed it so its the exact same for LPR's as for citizens

Hey, I recently joined the Navy, currently waiting for boot camp ship date. From the moment I brought my docs to my recruiter to the moment of signing the contract, it took me 28 days. It wasn’t really hard for me (except getting ready for ASVAB test, took me about a month), but I can tell that it was difficult for my recruiter because of paperwork (filling out all those forms with weird foreign names is no joke!). All military branches are suffering now, not so many people want to join, so they try their best to push people through as fast as they can, they even close their eyes on lots of stuff that can be kinda disqualifying but nothing serious. 

[ohcoffeeeyes 120]

2 hours ago, Panda & Bear said:

Hey, I recently joined the Navy, currently waiting for boot camp ship date. From the moment I brought my docs to my recruiter to the moment of signing the contract, it took me 28 days. It wasn’t really hard for me (except getting ready for ASVAB test, took me about a month), but I can tell that it was difficult for my recruiter because of paperwork (filling out all those forms with weird foreign names is no joke!). All military branches are suffering now, not so many people want to join, so they try their best to push people through as fast as they can, they even close their eyes on lots of stuff that can be kinda disqualifying but nothing serious. 

Awesome. I've actually decided on Navy now after waiting. What rate are you shipping as or are you going in as PACT? And what jobs were available at MEPs?

[Panda & Bear 11]

18 hours ago, ohcoffeeeyes said:

Awesome. I've actually decided on Navy now after waiting. What rate are you shipping as or are you going in as PACT? And what jobs were available at MEPs?

Navy is a good choice, especially if you like to travel. The availability of jobs for you is determined by your ASVAB score (the higher score opens more jobs), and being a permanent resident is also reducing the amount of jobs significantly (my score is pretty high, technically I was qualified for every job in the Navy but only 20 of them were available for me, mostly technical or electrical fields). When I went to MEPS, before they did my medical exam, a Navy chief asked me about my job preferences, and after the medical I talked to a person who gave me 3 job options (based on ASVAB score and my medical results), one of them was the job I wanted. From what I saw they have tons of different jobs available currently (he showed me), he even asked when I would like to go so he can look what jobs were available for that particular time/month. I was surprised that guy didn’t try to push me to choose a job they really need people for (he suggested me to be an electrician’s mate, and go to boot camp in 2 weeks after signing a contract but I wasn’t interested). So, I’m gonna be a logistics specialist.

[malajoe 100]

20 hours ago, Panda & Bear said:

Navy is a good choice, especially if you like to travel. The availability of jobs for you is determined by your ASVAB score (the higher score opens more jobs), and being a permanent resident is also reducing the amount of jobs significantly (my score is pretty high, technically I was qualified for every job in the Navy but only 20 of them were available for me, mostly technical or electrical fields). When I went to MEPS, before they did my medical exam, a Navy chief asked me about my job preferences, and after the medical I talked to a person who gave me 3 job options (based on ASVAB score and my medical results), one of them was the job I wanted. From what I saw they have tons of different jobs available currently (he showed me), he even asked when I would like to go so he can look what jobs were available for that particular time/month. I was surprised that guy didn’t try to push me to choose a job they really need people for (he suggested me to be an electrician’s mate, and go to boot camp in 2 weeks after signing a contract but I wasn’t interested). So, I’m gonna be a logistics specialist.

Good decision on joining the world's finest. I joined in 2010 as a LPR and I have not regretted that decision yet. There are a lot of opportunities. You just have to set goals and reach for them. Ensure that you have a strong support system because it can get tough at times. 

[Panda & Bear 11]

1 hour ago, malajoe said:

Good decision on joining the world's finest. I joined in 2010 as a LPR and I have not regretted that decision yet. There are a lot of opportunities. You just have to set goals and reach for them. Ensure that you have a strong support system because it can get tough at times. 

You’re absolutely right! Support is really important especially if you have lots of sea duty. All my family is Marines, so I had pretty much no choice but to join the military 😃 But they understand how hard it is, and they’re extremely supportive!

[ohcoffeeeyes 120]

22 hours ago, Panda & Bear said:

Navy is a good choice, especially if you like to travel. The availability of jobs for you is determined by your ASVAB score (the higher score opens more jobs), and being a permanent resident is also reducing the amount of jobs significantly (my score is pretty high, technically I was qualified for every job in the Navy but only 20 of them were available for me, mostly technical or electrical fields). When I went to MEPS, before they did my medical exam, a Navy chief asked me about my job preferences, and after the medical I talked to a person who gave me 3 job options (based on ASVAB score and my medical results), one of them was the job I wanted. From what I saw they have tons of different jobs available currently (he showed me), he even asked when I would like to go so he can look what jobs were available for that particular time/month. I was surprised that guy didn’t try to push me to choose a job they really need people for (he suggested me to be an electrician’s mate, and go to boot camp in 2 weeks after signing a contract but I wasn’t interested). So, I’m gonna be a logistics specialist.

Thank you! 20 were available! That seems like a lot! I am not sure what I want yet but as I said, I am at the interview stage of my CR-1 (just waiting for this coronavirus situation to end... hopefully soon) and then as soon as I get to the US I'm talking to a Navy recruiter. I'm looking mainly as Seabee rates and other admin roles if they aren't there, like LS, so it's nice that you were able to procure that. Thank you so much for your response. I'm happy electrician's mate was there too that's on my list.

 

50 minutes ago, Panda & Bear said:

You’re absolutely right! Support is really important especially if you have lots of sea duty. All my family is Marines, so I had pretty much no choice but to join the military 😃 But they understand how hard it is, and they’re extremely supportive!

I hear that... back in the UK all my family were in the British Army, dad was deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan during GWOT, grandfather was in Northern Ireland and g-grandfather was in Korea and Malaysia, so I have always been a bit aligned to it. My wife's family are ALL US Navy and my wife would love to reenter that environment so I thought why not? Lol. I hope you have a good Navy career! and Congratulations.

[Panda & Bear 11]

11 hours ago, ohcoffeeeyes said:

Thank you! 20 were available! That seems like a lot! I am not sure what I want yet but as I said, I am at the interview stage of my CR-1 (just waiting for this coronavirus situation to end... hopefully soon) and then as soon as I get to the US I'm talking to a Navy recruiter. I'm looking mainly as Seabee rates and other admin roles if they aren't there, like LS, so it's nice that you were able to procure that. Thank you so much for your response. I'm happy electrician's mate was there too that's on my list.

 

I hear that... back in the UK all my family were in the British Army, dad was deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan during GWOT, grandfather was in Northern Ireland and g-grandfather was in Korea and Malaysia, so I have always been a bit aligned to it. My wife's family are ALL US Navy and my wife would love to reenter that environment so I thought why not? Lol. I hope you have a good Navy career! and Congratulations.

I’m sorry to say that but for LPRs Seabee rates aren’t available (you need to be a US citizen).

my thoughts to you is to prepare for ASVAB test in advance, and take into consideration a PICAT version of it (they might even let you do it at home), the only trick with PICAT is that you will need to go to MEPS for a conformation test but it’s super easy (I did it). After your test your recruiter can tell you exactly what rates will be available for you (keep in mind the higher ASVAB score, the more rates). Kinda good that most of the rates for LPRs don’t require high score but if you’re planning to stay in the Navy longer, you’ll have a chance to change your rate (especially after getting your US citizenship), so they can use your test score for this too. 
Also if you have any degree (not only high school diploma), try to get an evaluation of it because the Navy might recognize it, and enlist you with a higher rank (not E-1 but E-2 or E-3) which means more money 😃 and they also offer bonuses for higher education (up to $8,000). Geez, I just realized I sound like a Navy recruiter, they need to pay me for their promotion 😃

Dude, that’s awesome! What a nice military family tradition you have! Good for you 😃 I love military community, so many great people there, can’t wait to be a part of it.