AOS interview and questions upon arrival in US

[LilyKins 121]

6 hours ago, jskibo said:

You seem to know this was your intent from the beginning given what you laid out in your other thread about using a fake SSN to work

 

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/supreme-court-gives-states-greater-rights-to-prosecute-undocumented-immigrants-11583253531

 

I don't have much to add to this thread but I felt this might be relevant for others who find this thread or the old, locked one. This was published by the WSJ yesterday concerning exactly this, using a "fake" or possibly "identity theft but we didn't know it was real because we made up a random number" SSN to illegally obtain work.

[KelevraUSA 8]

38 minutes ago, LilyKins said:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/supreme-court-gives-states-greater-rights-to-prosecute-undocumented-immigrants-11583253531

 

I don't have much to add to this thread but I felt this might be relevant for others who find this thread or the old, locked one. This was published by the WSJ yesterday concerning exactly this, using a "fake" or possibly "identity theft but we didn't know it was real because we made up a random number" SSN to illegally obtain work.

Ok, folks. I really do not understand why you all go so badly against what I have asked. I am totally aware I made a mistake in the previous post(about Fake SSN) which I directly apologized for to the forum's Visor. I just did not read TOS and saw many post talking about fake SSn so I though it was legit. Your house, your rules. My bad ok, why bring it up again in this post? 
is your intention to prove something that might seem but it is not? 

My previous post is actually the proof I had no intent to stay in US. Do you know why? Because overstaying it was not an option(and I can prove if asked at the interview) so looking for illegal works. Only when our lawyer strongly recommended to stay and told us I would not obtained EAD not before 6 months, I had thought about fake SSN. Which is a crime I have not committed so far, unless you are pretending I did. Do not you think that maybe for a young guy working without a salary for at least 6 month could be depressing? Maybe I am not so lucky as much as most of you who crossed the border legally and asked for AOS and at the same time affording to live without a salary for a long time? But I am not even in a condition to put everything at risk(fake ssn) just to get few money in the pocket. I did wrong asking in the topic, my fault, I'd say case closed.

 

What about this topic? I simply asked if USCIS knows what I said at POE. Also, POE admitted me in US which means, if I am right like others have said here, I had no intent to stay. Someone said I lied.Why? I believe lying is different from not saying things because not asked. 

 

P.s. I appreciate the article you shared. At first I did not know it was so illegal and risky. Now, after some days of reading news, I've realized that it really make serious problems to legal people in US when someone decides to make a fake SSN. 

Edited March 4, 2020 by RockoUSA

[Marieke H 2,508]

2 minutes ago, RockoUSA said:

Ok, folks. I really do not understand why you all go so badly against what I have asked. I am totally aware I made a mistake in the previous post(about Fake SSN) which I directly apologized for to the forum's Visor. I just did not read TOS and saw many post talking about fake SSn so I though it was legit. Your house, your rules. My bad ok, why bring it up again in this post? 
is your intention to prove something that might seem but it is not? 

My previous post is actually the proof I had no intent to stay in US. Do you know why? Because overstaying it was not an option(and I can prove if asked at the interview) so looking for illegal works. Only when our lawyer strongly recommended to stay and told us I would not obtained EAD not before 6 months, I had thought about fake SSN. Which is a crime I have not committed so far, unless you are pretending I did. Do not you think that maybe for a young guy working without a salary for at least 6 month could be depressing? Maybe I am not so lucky as much as most of you who crossed the border legally and asked for AOS and at the same time affording to live without a salary for a long time? But I am not even in a condition to put everything at risk(fake ssn) just to get few money in the pocket. I did wrong asking in the topic, my fault, I'd say case closed.

 

What about this topic? I simply asked if USCIS knows what I said at POE. Also, POE admitted me in US which means, if I am right like others have said here, I had no intent to stay. Someone said I lied.Why? I believe lying is different from not saying things because not asked. 

So you circumvented the normal immigration process by omitting the fact that you were visiting your wife (be honest, that was the real purpose of your visit, wasn't it?) when you entered. Then you found out that you would not be allowed to work for 6 months, and looked for illegal ways to be able to start working.

 

If working is so important to you, you should have just gone home and file for a CR1. Then you'd be able to work in your home country until you'd receive your visa, and you'd be allowed to start working in the US as soon as you'd arrive.

 

Be honest, follow the rules, and accept that it takes time.

[jaysaldi 213]

12 hours ago, RockoUSA said:

I just do not get people  jumping to conclusions without either having solid informations about I my current case or being in my same situation. I do not think that answer  "yeah you lied" was so proper to what I asked. My opinion since I am free to post. 

Why didn't you tell CBP you were there to visit your wife?

[Marieke H 2,508]

5 minutes ago, jaysaldi said:

Why didn't you tell CBP you were there to visit your wife?

Because he knew very well that there was a chance he would not be allowed to enter. Just a guess.

[Nat&Amy 623]

You have been given very bad advice from your lawyers so be very careful moving forward with them. The information you got, that filing for a spousal visa would make you inelegible to enter the States to visit your wife for 18-24 months is the biggest load of BS I have ever heard. Such a thing does not exist.

 

No one is forced to stay without work for 6 months. AoS is recommended by lawyers as "the path to follow" because that's how they get your money. They couldn't care less if that option is really the best for you (clearly it isn't, and yes, it can get really depressing because you probably won't be able to drive, either, and good luck depending on public transportation to go places, depending on where you live). You could have applied to a spousal visa and entered the country with permanent resident status, but it is what it is now.

 

As you said, "intent" doesn't matter anymore. To answer your question: it is extremely unlikely that USCIS will give you a hard time during interview, unless you lied about your plans at some point. 

Edited March 4, 2020 by Nat&Amy

[KelevraUSA 8]

31 minutes ago, Marieke H said:

So you circumvented the normal immigration process by omitting the fact that you were visiting your wife (be honest, that was the real purpose of your visit, wasn't it?) when you entered. 

 

Right. This is what I wrote.  Is it different from intending to stay, isn't it? So let's first put away the hypothesis I intended to stay.

 

32 minutes ago, Marieke H said:

Then you found out that you would not be allowed to work for 6 months, and looked for illegal ways to be able to start working.

 

 

That's right as well. I found it out and eventually decided to apply for AOS. Few days ago some people suggested me the fake ssn way if I wanted to work, I asked about on this forum, I realized that is totally illegal and considered a serious fraud. Some users on this forum messaged me sharing their experiences, others kindly shared articles on prosecutions towards illegal work. And they have convinced me to not go for this way. It does not seem I have already committed this crime like someone pretends to be. 

[LilyKins 121]

51 minutes ago, RockoUSA said:

Ok, folks. I really do not understand why you all go so badly against what I have asked. I am totally aware I made a mistake in the previous post(about Fake SSN) which I directly apologized for to the forum's Visor. I just did not read TOS and saw many post talking about fake SSn so I though it was legit. Your house, your rules. My bad ok, why bring it up again in this post? 
is your intention to prove something that might seem but it is not? 

My previous post is actually the proof I had no intent to stay in US. Do you know why? Because overstaying it was not an option(and I can prove if asked at the interview) so looking for illegal works. Only when our lawyer strongly recommended to stay and told us I would not obtained EAD not before 6 months, I had thought about fake SSN. Which is a crime I have not committed so far, unless you are pretending I did. Do not you think that maybe for a young guy working without a salary for at least 6 month could be depressing? Maybe I am not so lucky as much as most of you who crossed the border legally and asked for AOS and at the same time affording to live without a salary for a long time? But I am not even in a condition to put everything at risk(fake ssn) just to get few money in the pocket. I did wrong asking in the topic, my fault, I'd say case closed.

 

What about this topic? I simply asked if USCIS knows what I said at POE. Also, POE admitted me in US which means, if I am right like others have said here, I had no intent to stay. Someone said I lied.Why? I believe lying is different from not saying things because not asked. 

 

P.s. I appreciate the article you shared. At first I did not know it was so illegal and risky. Now, after some days of reading news, I've realized that it really make serious problems to legal people in US when someone decides to make a fake SSN. 

 

The intention of posting that article actually had nothing to directly do with you -- many, many people read these posts seeking advice through the experiences of others. I posted that article so that anybody referencing these posts could see the news article and make an informed decision based on factual evidence and the discussions that occur in these posts  

[LilyKins 121]

6 minutes ago, RockoUSA said:

That's right as well. I found it out and eventually decided to apply for AOS. Few days ago some people suggested me the fake ssn way if I wanted to work, I asked about on this forum, I realized that is totally illegal and considered a serious fraud. Some users on this forum messaged me sharing their experiences, others kindly shared articles on prosecutions towards illegal work. And they have convinced me to not go for this way. It does not seem I have already committed this crime like someone pretends to be. 

People have very strong opinions on this forum and are very vocal about them; it's the nature of the beast when dealing with issues that can be as emotional as immigration. At the end of the day, we all share the common goal of wanting to be with our loved ones through legal routes.

 

I am happy, and thankful, that you were able to find this forum before you got caught up in something more serious, like the SSN issue. The wait is frustrating (I'm experiencing it right now!) but it'll be worth it in the end. This is what spouses do for one another -- they support each other, and hopefully your wife is more than happy to support you through this experience.

 

That said, what should be of big concern to you is ensuring that you didn't commit material misrepresentation in any of your visa applications by listing yourself as single when you were in fact married. That would be a much bigger issue than the CBP interaction.

 

 

[KelevraUSA 8]

35 minutes ago, Nat&Amy said:

You have been given very bad advice from your lawyers so be very careful moving forward with them. The information you got, that filing for a spousal visa would make you inelegible to enter the States to visit your wife for 18-24 months is the biggest load of BS I have ever heard. Such a thing does not exist.

 

Do you mean B-1 or B-2 Visa( do not remember the right one). If so, I knew it takes a lot of time as well. You can not simply travel with an ESTA under pending status. 

 

35 minutes ago, Nat&Amy said:

No one is forced to stay without work for 6 months. AoS is recommended by lawyers as "the path to follow" because that's how they get your money. They couldn't care less if that option is really the best for you (clearly it isn't, and yes, it can get really depressing because you probably won't be able to drive, either, and good luck depending on public transportation to go places, depending on where you live). You could have applied to a spousal visa and entered the country with permanent resident status, but it is what it is now.

 

I want to stand up for my lawyer here. Before AOS, she proposed 3 options, including AOS. Another one was, for example , obtaining a J-1 Training Visa, which was very easy since I have a B.s. and M.s. and then ask for AOS. This option was more expansive than AOS but she told that it was going to be more difficult to obtain a Green Card eventually and It would have been riskier. The other was counselor processing which we refused since its long times and the option was not so cheap compared to AOS. She told us I would not be able to travel for a lot of months because with the present administration times have been delayed A LOT! But, please, if can give me any clue that shows I could have travelled with any kind of visa or whatever, I'd happy to get it.

We simply asked for the fastest way to stay together, legally! and she proposed couple options for our circumnstances

Edited March 4, 2020 by RockoUSA

[Marieke H 2,508]

10 minutes ago, RockoUSA said:

Do you mean B-1 or B-2 Visa( do not remember the right one). If so, I knew it takes a lot of time as well. You can not simply travel with an ESTA under pending status. 

Incorrect. Lots of people visit on an ESTA during the process.

 

11 minutes ago, RockoUSA said:

I want to stand up for my lawyer here. Before AOS, she proposed 3 options, including AOS. Another one was, for example , obtaining a J-1 Training Visa, which was very easy since I have a B.s. and M.s. and then ask for AOS. This option was more expansive than AOS but she told that it was going to be more difficult to obtain a Green Card eventually and It would have been riskier. The other was counselor processing which we refused since its long times and the option was not so cheap compared to AOS. She told us I would not be able to travel for a lot of months because with the present administration times have been delayed A LOT! But, please, if can give me any clue that shows I could have travelled with any kind of visa or whatever, I'd happy to get it.

Did you consult with this lawyer before or after you entered the country?

[Illiria 980]

19 minutes ago, RockoUSA said:

You can not simply travel with an ESTA under pending status.

Yes you can visit using ESTA when your spouse has submitted a petition for you. I did. 

[ineedadisplayname 497]

2 hours ago, RockoUSA said:

fake SSn so I though it was legit

You just called it FAKE. How fake is legit?

 

 

Anyway to be on topic.

Italy has ESTA. Did you use a visa or have esta? Does the esta correctly shows that you are married to an USC? 

[African Zealot 1,455]

You were under no obligation to specify to the immigration officer that you were visiting your wife unless he asked specifically. Venture no information to immigration unless asked, that's the standard advice. 

 

However if you intended to adjust status while coming in on a visitor visa/ESTA, then you committed fraud. In any case USCIS will have to prove that you had that intent when you were interviewed at the port of entry. Don't panic over what some people are saying.

 

Going forward, do some research on your own and do not rely solely only on attorneys. Many of us here went through our immigration journeys without the help of attorneys.

 

My advice is do not go on internet forums or anywhere else proposing to break the law. Actually, commit to scrupulously obeying the law in all situations. You are getting harsh answers here because your past posting indicates you're amenable to breaking the law when it suits you, and folks on VJ abhor that especially immigration law breakers who jump the queue 😆.

 

Good luck!

 

 

Edited March 4, 2020 by Ray.Bonaquist

[jaysaldi 213]

19 minutes ago, Ray.Bonaquist said:

You were under no obligation to specify to the immigration officer that you were visiting your wife unless he asked specifically. Venture no information to immigration unless asked, that's the standard advice. 

 

 

 

 

If they asked the purpose of his visit, which they undoubtedly did since he was taken into secondary inspection and questioned about his trip, then he was obligated to answer truthfully.  He said "I'm here to visit a college friend" when the primary reason for the trip was to see his wife. That answer was dishonest.