Boris Johnson's girlfriend Carrie Symonds is PREGNANT: Prime Minister and his First Lady are engaged as she announces 'We've got a baby hatching early summer'

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'Many of you already know but for my friends that still don't, we got engaged at the end of last year... and we've got a baby hatching early summer.' 

The date of their wedding has not been announced, but it will mark the first time in at least 250 years a sitting prime minister has married while in office. 

The Prime Minister, 55, has at least five children, although he has never confirmed the exact number after imposing a blanket ban on talking about his family. This will be the first child born to his 31-year-old partner.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8059925/Boris-Johnsons-girlfriend-Carrie-Symonds-PREGNANT.html

 

Congrats to them. Have to point out though that Boris kind of needs that decree absolute before he can marry Carrie. 

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It is about time for a DM update, must admit I did not know his divorce was not finalised but makes a lot of sense and from what little I had read about her assumed she would want the ring, presumably she did not want to wait much longer for the child.

 

The cynic wonders how long this one will last but then he is not getting any younger.

 

I always wondered about age, he is going to be past retirement age when the child is doing their 11+. I did amuse myself doing the School Run when I first arrived and I was younger than he is now, and you could tell that the Mum's were trying to work out where I fitted in and he is going to be a generation older.

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15 minutes ago, Boiler said:

It is about time for a DM update, must admit I did not know his divorce was not finalised but makes a lot of sense and from what little I had read about her assumed she would want the ring, presumably she did not want to wait much longer for the child.

 

The cynic wonders how long this one will last but then he is not getting any younger.

 

I always wondered about age, he is going to be past retirement age when the child is doing their 11+. I did amuse myself doing the School Run when I first arrived and I was younger than he is now, and you could tell that the Mum's were trying to work out where I fitted in and he is going to be a generation older.

Yes,  I should have mentioned this doubles as a DM update. 

 

Carrie Symonds reminds me a bit of a frenemy of mine, though Carrie has had way more professional ambition. Symonds found her powerful man and locked him down. The baby seals it I think. I can't believe Marina Wheeler waited that long to divorce Boris. I wouldn't have stood for Voldy having babies outside of our marriage. 

 

I read the oldest Johnson kids aren't keen on Symonds and his sister Rachel hasn't even met her yet! God, Boris's life makes me feel better about my own in terms of messiness. 

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Sort of reminds me of someone I know, something that initially made me think #######, how can you deal with all these weird situations.

 

Much later, too much later, I came to the conclusion it really does not matter, if it works for them so be it, and perhaps the issue is mine not theirs.

 

I really think Boris just lives his life differently, now it would be very easy to make comments about Carrie which would be extremely unfair, she is hardly in an unusual situation, how many have gone before her.

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6 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Sort of reminds me of someone I know, something that initially made me think #######, how can you deal with all these weird situations.

 

Much later, too much later, I came to the conclusion it really does not matter, if it works for them so be it, and perhaps the issue is mine not theirs.

 

I really think Boris just lives his life differently, now it would be very easy to make comments about Carrie which would be extremely unfair, she is hardly in an unusual situation, how many have gone before her.

My own experience of people of Boris's class is that some find themselves in predicaments that are difficult to imagine for middle class people. It's a privilege thing, I think -- they are indulged or aren't called to account for their bad behavior in ways that those of us a rung or two below would probably suffer serious blowback for. I think of Al's uncle who spent the bulk of the sizable sum he and his wife (mostly his wife) had put away for their children on a French "fancy lady" and at a casino in Estoril. It's a bonkers story that I couldn't believe but alas, it really is true. The only repercussions were Uncle B moved out for a few months and then was welcomed back like nothing ever happened. If that had been my dad, my mom would have filed for divorce immediately and he would have been a social pariah. Everyone thinks Uncle B is a hoot and it's just another one of his eccentricities. 

 

But you are right that my judgment of people is more my problem than theirs. If Symonds thinks Boris is worth a gamble in the short run-- get a child and social standing and some £££££ -- that's her deal. I am hardly one to talk given that I've been tarred with the same brush. 

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There is a certain tradition, and I was thinking of how to explain it, so this is a very simple version, they had GiGi on TCM recently which I had never watched I think, set in Paris c1900 and going back to the Wallace Simpson situation it was traditional that those with a drive? had mistresses and that the press did not really cover that and it was a nod and a wink. Actually some had boyfriends same sort of deal. That sort of changed in the 60's, things became much less deferential, so what would have the Boris situation been back then, probably one wife and lots of mistresses. He obviously has difficulty keeping it in his trousers.

 

Before my time but I always think of the Profumo affair but then Kennedy seems to have been similar to Boris and not a lot was said at the time.,

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24 minutes ago, Boiler said:

There is a certain tradition, and I was thinking of how to explain it, so this is a very simple version, they had GiGi on TCM recently which I had never watched I think, set in Paris c1900 and going back to the Wallace Simpson situation it was traditional that those with a drive? had mistresses and that the press did not really cover that and it was a nod and a wink. Actually some had boyfriends same sort of deal. That sort of changed in the 60's, things became much less deferential, so what would have the Boris situation been back then, probably one wife and lots of mistresses. He obviously has difficulty keeping it in his trousers.

 

Before my time but I always think of the Profumo affair but then Kennedy seems to have been similar to Boris and not a lot was said at the time.,

I think one of the ways some people try to deal with it is with having an open marriage. Some people are open about their openness, and others not. Pretty much the same thing as having a wife and mistress(es), just somehow I guess saying it's "open" makes it less suspect because there is (I suppose) some agreement on the part of the other spouse that it's fine. But certainly it's really not any different than the wife/mistress dynamic -- the not knowing is more along the lines of just cheating. 

 

My own observations of people who have tried opening up their relationships is that unless everyone is really bought in, they kind of lead to the main relationship breaking down. The ones I have seen that have really not worked were when there was too much of trying to bring the wife and mistress together, like everyone should be friends. Umm, no. Jealousy of course is a big problem, and I don't know how it really benefits the person with two partners -- there seems to have to be a lot of talking, spending time making everyone feel loved and cared for... I almost think the "I just see you when I want to bone" situation is preferable as long as everyone is okay with it! Again, just my own observation of about four of these situations. Not in my own relationship, I add. 

Edited March 2, 2020 by laylalex
Clearly v tired and am typing nonsense strings of words.

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Well I came across that open situation some time ago after I moved here and that was another situation where I thought really, now I do not know how things worked out, probably could find out. I sort of assumed it would end in tears but I only knew one of the participants. She had a child that was probably 12 at the time and I may be wrong in my thought process but the child being involved bothered me the most. I was told they all moved in together.

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3 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Well I came across that open situation some time ago after I moved here and that was another situation where I thought really, now I do not know how things worked out, probably could find out. I sort of assumed it would end in tears but I only knew one of the participants. She had a child that was probably 12 at the time and I may be wrong in my thought process but the child being involved bothered me the most. I was told they all moved in together.

I do worry more when there are children involved, though I read a recent article about research showing that children were not negatively affected, though I believe a lot of that had to do with how stable the relationships were. There was a woman quoted in the article for whom the experience was deeply negative for her and her siblings when they went through it as kids. There were two couples involved, and both couples split up and eventually married their lover.

 

None of the people I am thinking about had kids at the time but a lot of it came down to unrealistic expectations blowing things up. If your relationship sucks for reasons that are beyond just you wanting to sleep with other people, sleeping with other people won't fix your problems. I recently had a come to Jesus talk with someone about her staying with her husband who has been seeing an ex for a while now on the side -- she had come to me for advice and I pointed out that she knew that her husband was staying with her because he felt guilty about what he was doing, which doesn't sound like a very healthy place to be. She was staying because she was afraid of getting divorced and looking like a failure. Which I totally get because I felt the same way once. But being in a relationship with someone out of fear of looking dumb isn't a good look either. 

 

Back to Carrie Symonds, I just saw a bunch of pics of her in the Sun from when she was at Warwick in a sexy schoolgirl outfit. I cannot judge because there are pictures of me floating out there on Facebook where I'm dressed similarly. I have untagged myself but despite my requests they are still in others' photo albums. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7224073/boris-johnson-carrie-symonds-dresses-britney-spears-photos/

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Perhaps I will ask next time I talk to my connection. The Mother always struck me as scatty and the daughter did not seem that way, she seemed more staid but who knows. None of my business so perhaps I will let it ride.

 

Everybody is different, I had my ear bent on Saturday and really all you can do is nod and say something sympathetic but they need to make their own call.

 

Actually those photos do not strike me as being that bad, once on the web always on the web, makes you wonder what societal impact this will have in the longer run.

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1 minute ago, Boiler said:

Perhaps I will ask next time I talk to my connection. The Mother always struck me as scatty and the daughter did not seem that way, she seemed more staid but who knows. None of my business so perhaps I will let it ride.

 

Everybody is different, I had my ear bent on Saturday and really all you can do is nod and say something sympathetic but they need to make their own call.

 

Actually those photos do not strike me as being that bad, once on the web always on the web, makes you wonder what societal impact this will have in the longer run.

I agree the pictures could be worse. The ones of me are about the same level of wholesome-ish sauce, nothing too-too if you know what I mean. There was one of me once that was meant for private consumption (clothes were on but it was provocative) that I finally succeeded in having removed from a forum. I think I mentioned it before perhaps. Quite humiliating. The whole experience has made me much more careful. Of course when you are young you don't always recognize that your dumb, momentarily fleeting "this is an okay idea" thoughts could come back to hurt you. I mean, even Trump has to deal with his 47 bajillion tweets over the years and for whatever situation he finds himself in, there's a tweet where he's criticizing a person for doing something similar to whatever he's touting as a success. 

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I had a lesson in Instagram today...

 

And no it will not feature any photos of me, but in helping to try and show what we were doing I pulled up a You Tube of what was involved, not one I had actually seen before and there I was fortunately in the background.

 

Nothing salacious but you simply do not know what is out there. I do not post personal stuff, I am aware of others who over share. 

 

I always wondered if Trump does all his own tweets and is there is a PR person involved as well. The method may be different, it is pulpit to address the masses, and to think it was not that long ago Obama was praised for his mastery of the new media. Is this a new norm, probably not but the  box has certainly been opened.

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Boris Johnson has at least five children, yet has not officially confirmed the exact number after leading a tangled love life that has seen him married twice. Both marriages ended after he had affairs. What is known is that the Prime Minister and Marina Wheeler, who separated in 2018, have four children together: Lara Lettice (left), 26, Milo Arthur, 24, (second left) Cassia Peaches, 22, (top right) and Theodore Apollo, 20 (second right). He also has a fifth child, Stephanie Macintyre, with art consultant Helen Macintyre (bottom right). And Ms Macintyre's daughter is allegedly one of two children he fathered as a result of an affair.

I sort of assume he knows.

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The rumor that was going around last week about this, was that Carrie socked BoJo in the face after catching him cheating on her with an aide. He had been hiding from public because he had a black eye.

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3 hours ago, Boiler said:

I sort of assume he knows.

I mean, isn't that the old joke? Like, you ask a guy how many kids he has and he says "one... that I know of."