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FBAR - IRS Clarification of Defined Benefit/Contribution

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Hi all,

 

I found this and thought it might be useful for anyone who has similar freak outs to me but can’t find answers. Below is an official response I received from the IRS regarding types of pensions to be reported on the FBAR after I sent them an essay and PDF of my pension scheme.

 

This is from the FBARQuestions@irs.gov e-mail from a ‘Senior BSA Tax Law Specialist’ from the BSA Compliance Dept (BSA is the law FBAR falls under) so she knows her stuff.

 

TLDR; defined benefit pensions are typically not reportable on the FBAR. Defined contribution pensions are. See below.

 

 

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On 3/1/2020 at 1:41 AM, QueenOfBlades said:

Hi all,

 

I found this and thought it might be useful for anyone who has similar freak outs to me but can’t find answers. Below is an official response I received from the IRS regarding types of pensions to be reported on the FBAR after I sent them an essay and PDF of my pension scheme.

 

This is from the FBARQuestions@irs.gov e-mail from a ‘Senior BSA Tax Law Specialist’ from the BSA Compliance Dept (BSA is the law FBAR falls under) so she knows her stuff.

 

TLDR; defined benefit pensions are typically not reportable on the FBAR. Defined contribution pensions are. See below.

 

 

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This is an older post but I was wondering if you had any other notable tax/reporting obligations in regards to your defined contribution pension - e.g. form 8938, form 3520? I am finding it very confusing. 
(I am planning on meeting with a cross border tax specialist but just wanted to do some preliminary research) 

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