Socialism's Inequalities

[TBoneTX 46,125]

A different analysis of socialism (counter to "equally spreading poverty"). Comments after reading it?

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Socialism's Inequalities

Angelo Codevilla - February 29th, 2020

 

Few statements are more revealing of ignorance than the standard conservative indictment of socialism for "equally spreading poverty.  According to this critique, poverty happens when socialism's insistence on equality of conditions deprives people of the incentive to work. Such statements so offend reality as to lead one to ask whether those who make them have ever opened their eyes in a socialist country. [...]

 

Continues here: https://amgreatness.com/2020/02/29/socialisms-inequalities/  

 

And here, appearing by coincidence as a republication on a different website, is a story supporting the above:

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How A Russian’s Grocery Store Trip In 1989 Exposed The Lie Of Socialism

https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/13/how-a-russians-grocery-store-trip-in-1989-exposed-the-lie-of-socialism/

 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,382]

4 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

A different analysis of socialism (counter to "equally spreading poverty"). Comments after reading it?

And here, appearing by coincidence as a republication on a different website, is a story supporting the above:

Very easy to see if you look

[90DayFinancier 910]

7 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

A different analysis of socialism (counter to "equally spreading poverty"). Comments after reading it?

And here, appearing by coincidence as a republication on a different website, is a story supporting the above:

I always get amused with slams against socialism that don't define Scandinavian countries as Socialist even though 55-60% of the GDP is public spending. 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

1 hour ago, 90DayFinancier said:

I always get amused with slams against socialism that don't define Scandinavian countries as Socialist even though 55-60% of the GDP is public spending. 

I always get amused at people who think Nordic countries are socialist.

 

This may help:

 

Currently, these countries include Algeria, Bangladesh, Guyana, India, Nepal,Nicaragua, North Korea, Portugal, Sri Lanka and Tanzania.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

The inequality of socialism for me is demonstrated in the UK's health system where someone can deny another person healthcare because they were offensive/sexist/racist/etc. 

 

If that doesn't demonstrate the inhumanity of socialism, doubt anything will.

[Dashinka 24,799]

2 hours ago, 90DayFinancier said:

I always get amused with slams against socialism that don't define Scandinavian countries as Socialist even though 55-60% of the GDP is public spending. 

Social democracies are way different than socialism.

[90DayFinancier 910]

16 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Social democracies are way different than socialism.

And the knock against Bernie is that he is labeled a Socialist, and calls himself a socialist, for policies to that align to the Nordic countries.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

14 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

And the knock against Bernie is that he is labeled a Socialist, and calls himself a socialist, for policies to that align to the Nordic countries.

I only know about 6 people who come from that area.  They love it.  They brag about the beauty,  the people, the free stuff.

 

But every time I ask someone why they left there for the US, every single one of them say the taxes are too high.  Wonder why that is??

[Boiler 46,121]

What is the Nordic position on Reparations? They do not seem that keen on open borders?

[90DayFinancier 910]

1 hour ago, Voice of Reason said:

I only know about 6 people who come from that area.  They love it.  They brag about the beauty,  the people, the free stuff.

 

But every time I ask someone why they left there for the US, every single one of them say the taxes are too high.  Wonder why that is??

The taxes are high and that is reflected in a culture that values equality and does not celebrate wealth.  That part might be a struggle for some Americans. 

 

 

I am not defending one society over another, I am simply noting that Bernie is knocked as a Socialist and what he is promoting is Nordic style "socialism"

According to some, all Democrats are socialist but Bernie is a Communist. 

 

As pointed out in the Article, America left the "pure" Capitalism camp in the 1930s

 

 

[Boiler 46,121]

10 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

The taxes are high and that is reflected in a culture that values equality and does not celebrate wealth.  That part might be a struggle for some Americans. 

 

 

I am not defending one society over another, I am simply noting that Bernie is knocked as a Socialist and what he is promoting is Nordic style "socialism"

According to some, all Democrats are socialist but Bernie is a Communist. 

 

As pointed out in the Article, America left the "pure" Capitalism camp in the 1930s

 

 

As the Nordic countries are not socialist countries the whole issue is somewhat misleading, is IKEA State owned?

 

Which Nordic Country has M4All? My understanding is that they all have a mixed Healthcare system.

 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

42 minutes ago, Boiler said:

As the Nordic countries are not socialist countries the whole issue is somewhat misleading, is IKEA State owned?

 

Which Nordic Country has M4All? My understanding is that they all have a mixed Healthcare system.

 

I believe my previous post about that flew right over his head.  I wonder if he will grasp yours?

[Boiler 46,121]

5 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

I believe my previous post about that flew right over his head.  I wonder if he will grasp yours?

I doubt it.

 

The thing is that there are very few pure anything Countries. Purity very rarely works, and any system that starts as sort of pure is soon corrupted.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

If socialist professors say that education is a good thing for a country, why don't they teach for free?  

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

12 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

If socialist professors say that education is a good thing for a country, why don't they teach for free?  

The nature of big government fanatics rampant throughout the left, globally, is they want government deciding winners and losers rather than a population. It's no surprise we've seen more income inequality in the west, especially the US and Canada, under the increasing guise of "managed economies" than the laissez faire economy of old could ever possibly achieve. 

 

Same reason they try and undo elections they don't agree with.

 

It can't be seen as anything more than a religion (a manifest of [social] imagination), one has to ignore the consistent results of socialism, if not pretend its something else entirely, to suggest its workable. 

Edited March 1, 2020 by Burnt Reynolds