Coronavirus’s spread in U.S. is ‘inevitable,’ CDC warns

[TBoneTX 45,782]

On ‎2‎/‎26‎/‎2020 at 11:01 AM, yuna628 said:

I'll be the first to fall I'm sure

Even though it's winter, sorry to hear that you're a fall risk, si Y ma'am.

[TBoneTX 45,782]

On ‎2‎/‎26‎/‎2020 at 11:50 AM, Neonred said:

they would only be sending me a very limited supply of masks because of the shortage. 

Reuse them from patient to patient -- no one will be the wiser.

Supply challenges solved.

On ‎2‎/‎26‎/‎2020 at 11:50 AM, Neonred said:

Tried to order from another company and they have increased their prices X10 per box.

Use each of theirs for every 10 patients, then.

Financial challenges solved.

[Neonred 3,600]

12 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

Reuse them from patient to patient -- no one will be the wiser.

Supply challenges solved.

Use each of theirs for every 10 patients, then.

Financial challenges solved.

Perhaps turn them inside out and reuse?

 

Yuck!

[TBoneTX 45,782]

2 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

in 2009, the first data set released for the novel H1N1 influenza strain gave a mortality rate of 7%. The aggregate data today now has it at 0.1%. It was extremely serious for some people obviously, but many people who contracted the virus had little more than a runny nose. Those people were not included in the initial data.

When H1N1 was publicized, everyone in Ecuador was absolutely terrified of contracting it.  It was called La Porcina (swine flu).

A few months after Mrs. T-B. got here, I came down with a moderate fever.

She went with me to the doctor and sat in the waiting area.

The doctor said that it was the Porcina (similar to other cases, no regular flu cases occurring).

When I came out, Mrs. T-B. asked about the diagnosis.

I said, "I'll tell you on the elevator."

When the door closed, I said, "I have the Porcina."

"WHAAAAAT?!" she screamed.  "Do you have to go to the hospital?"

"Nope;" I said, "just rest at home for a week."

 

At home, Mrs. T-B. immediately began calling all her family & friends in Ecu.

Her mother insisted on speaking with me.  She knew no English, I almost no Spanish.

She worriedly babbled; I picked up only enferme (sick) and Porcina.

Summoning my entire vocabulary, I said, "Soy un Puerco [I am a pig]!  Oink oink oink!"

Mama-Mrs.-T-B. laughed nervously.

 

By about the 8th phone call, in response to the zillionth query of "is he going to die," Mrs. T-B. was answering, "No, I won't be that lucky."  

 

That Porcina was my first flu in many years, and it was milder than other flus in my memory.

[TBoneTX 45,782]

17 minutes ago, Neonred said:

Perhaps turn them inside out and reuse?

An excellent idea, si man!     

[Neonred 3,600]

38 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

 

By about the 8th phone call, in response to the zillionth query of "is he going to die," Mrs. T-B. was answering, "No, I won't be that lucky."  

 

 

Similar to my wife.  She says we will never get a divorce.  When she is finished with me she will just poison me.

 

Wonder if that may be a typical Russian idea?

 

So far she says she still needs me (a source for money).

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

In response to global concerns about the coronavirus, the United States has implemented temporary travel restrictions. If you have recently been to China, please review the following important information in preparation for your upcoming flight.

U.S. Citizens
U.S. citizens and permanent residents who have traveled to China in the past 14 days must arrive at one of the following airports and will be subject to additional screening and restrictions upon arrival into the United States:

• Atlanta, GA (ATL)
• Chicago, IL (ORD)
• Dallas/ Fort Worth, TX (DFW)
• Detroit, MI (DTW)
• Honolulu, HI (HNL)
• Los Angeles, CA (LAX)
• New York, NY (JFK)
• Newark, NJ (EWR)
• San Francisco, CA (SFO)
• Seattle, WA (SEA)
• Washington, DC (IAD)

Visitors (Non-U.S. Citizens)
Visitors (non-U.S. citizens) who have traveled to China in the past 14 days will not be permitted to travel to any destination within the United States.

[90DayFinancier 910]

Responding to Covid-19 — A Once-in-a-Century Pandemic?

List of authors.

• Bill Gates

• any crisis, leaders have two equally important responsibilities: solve the immediate problem and keep it from happening again. The Covid-19 pandemic is a case in point. We need to save lives now while also improving the way we respond to outbreaks in general. The first point is more pressing, but the second has crucial long-term consequences.

  The long-term challenge — improving our ability to respond to outbreaks — isn’t new. Global health experts have been saying for years that another pandemic whose speed and severity rivaled those of the 1918 influenza epidemic was a matter not of if but of when.¹ The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has committed substantial resources in recent years to helping the world prepare for such a scenario.

   

  Now we also face an immediate crisis. In the past week, Covid-19 has started behaving a lot like the once-in-a-century pathogen we’ve been worried about. I hope it’s not that bad, but we should assume it will be until we know otherwise.

  There are two reasons that Covid-19 is such a threat. First, it can kill healthy adults in addition to elderly people with existing health problems. The data so far suggest that the virus has a case fatality risk around 1%; this rate would make it many times more severe than typical seasonal influenza, putting it somewhere between the 1957 influenza pandemic (0.6%) and the 1918 influenza pandemic (2%).²

  Second, Covid-19 is transmitted quite efficiently. The average infected person spreads the disease to two or three others — an exponential rate of increase. There is also strong evidence that it can be transmitted by people who are just mildly ill or even presymptomatic.³ That means Covid-19 will be much harder to contain than the Middle East respiratory syndrome or severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), which were spread much less efficiently and only by symptomatic people. In fact, Covid-19 has already caused 10 times as many cases as SARS in a quarter of the time.

  National, state, and local governments and public health agencies can take steps over the next few weeks to slow the virus’s spread. For example, in addition to helping their own citizens respond, donor governments can help low- and middle-income countries (LMICs) prepare for this pandemic.⁴ Many LMIC health systems are already stretched thin, and a pathogen like the coronavirus can quickly overwhelm them. And poorer countries have little political or economic leverage, given wealthier countries’ natural desire to put their own people first.

  By helping African and South Asian countries get ready now, we can save lives and slow the global circulation of the virus. (A substantial portion of the commitment Melinda and I recently made to help kickstart the global response to Covid-19 — which could total up to $100 million — is focused on LMICs.)

  The world also needs to accelerate work on treatments and vaccines for Covid-19.⁵ Scientists sequenced the genome of the virus and developed several promising vaccine candidates in a matter of days, and the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations is already preparing up to eight promising vaccine candidates for clinical trials. If some of these vaccines prove safe and effective in animal models, they could be ready for larger-scale trials as early as June. Drug discovery can also be accelerated by drawing on libraries of compounds that have already been tested for safety and by applying new screening techniques, including machine learning, to identify antivirals that could be ready for large-scale clinical trials within weeks.

  All these steps would help address the current crisis. But we also need to make larger systemic changes so we can respond more efficiently and effectively when the next epidemic arrives.

  It’s essential to help LMICs strengthen their primary health care systems. When you build a health clinic, you’re also creating part of the infrastructure for fighting epidemics. Trained health care workers not only deliver vaccines; they can also monitor disease patterns, serving as part of the early warning systems that alert the world to potential outbreaks.

  We also need to invest in disease surveillance, including a case database that is instantly accessible to relevant organizations, and rules requiring countries to share information. Governments should have access to lists of trained personnel, from local leaders to global experts, who are prepared to deal with an epidemic immediately, as well as lists of supplies to be stockpiled or redirected in an emergency.

  In addition, we need to build a system that can develop safe, effective vaccines and antivirals, get them approved, and deliver billions of doses within a few months after the discovery of a fast-moving pathogen. That’s a tough challenge that presents technical, diplomatic, and budgetary obstacles, as well as demanding partnership between the public and private sectors. But all these obstacles can be overcome.

• https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2003762

Edited February 29, 2020 by 90DayFinancier

[yuna628 9,690]

1 hour ago, Voice of Reason said:

In response to global concerns about the coronavirus, the United States has implemented temporary travel restrictions. If you have recently been to China, please review the following important information in preparation for your upcoming flight.

U.S. Citizens
U.S. citizens and permanent residents who have traveled to China in the past 14 days must arrive at one of the following airports and will be subject to additional screening and restrictions upon arrival into the United States:

• Atlanta, GA (ATL)
• Chicago, IL (ORD)
• Dallas/ Fort Worth, TX (DFW)
• Detroit, MI (DTW)
• Honolulu, HI (HNL)
• Los Angeles, CA (LAX)
• New York, NY (JFK)
• Newark, NJ (EWR)
• San Francisco, CA (SFO)
• Seattle, WA (SEA)
• Washington, DC (IAD)

Visitors (Non-U.S. Citizens)
Visitors (non-U.S. citizens) who have traveled to China in the past 14 days will not be permitted to travel to any destination within the United States.

Huh... does that mean BWI will no longer be accepting Chinese flights?

[Lemonslice 4,941]

9 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

Huh... does that mean BWI will no longer be accepting Chinese flights?

Seems like it. Same goes for Boston.  Must have to do with local screening resources.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

1 hour ago, Voice of Reason said:

In response to global concerns about the coronavirus, the United States has implemented temporary travel restrictions. If you have recently been to China, please review the following important information in preparation for your upcoming flight.

U.S. Citizens
U.S. citizens and permanent residents who have traveled to China in the past 14 days must arrive at one of the following airports and will be subject to additional screening and restrictions upon arrival into the United States:

• Atlanta, GA (ATL)
• Chicago, IL (ORD)
• Dallas/ Fort Worth, TX (DFW)
• Detroit, MI (DTW)
• Honolulu, HI (HNL)
• Los Angeles, CA (LAX)
• New York, NY (JFK)
• Newark, NJ (EWR)
• San Francisco, CA (SFO)
• Seattle, WA (SEA)
• Washington, DC (IAD)

Visitors (Non-U.S. Citizens)
Visitors (non-U.S. citizens) who have traveled to China in the past 14 days will not be permitted to travel to any destination within the United States.

 

 

     Do you have an official link for this? I googled it and only get a link to a Facebook page for AVRA travel agency.

[yuna628 9,690]

I popped out for groceries this evening. Clear panic buying going on. 

 

water

vinegar

dried fruit

lysol

any kind of bleach

detergent

soap

kleenax

TP ((we never panic buy TP unless there's a snowstorm.. so what on earth...??!!))

hand sanitizer

 

all were gone or in very low supply. heading back out tomorrow to see if I can find tylenol which was also non-existing.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

19 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

 

     Do you have an official link for this? I googled it and only get a link to a Facebook page for AVRA travel agency.

Let me look online.  My source is solid, but I can't share it publicly.

 

ETA: https://china.usembassy-china.org.cn/dhs-issues-restrictions-on-inbound-flights-with-individuals-who-have-been-in-china/

 

And another... https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/02/02/in-response-to-growing-coronavirus-threat-dhs-issues-restrictions-on-inbound-flights-to-us/amp/

 

Edited February 29, 2020 by Voice of Reason

[Steeleballz 7,550]

10 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

Let me look online.  My source is solid, but I can't share it publicly.

 

ETA: https://china.usembassy-china.org.cn/dhs-issues-restrictions-on-inbound-flights-with-individuals-who-have-been-in-china/

 

And another... https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/02/02/in-response-to-growing-coronavirus-threat-dhs-issues-restrictions-on-inbound-flights-to-us/amp/

 

 

  Thanks. I wasn't trying to out your source. Just trying to find an official list. There is a topic on the main immigration news forum. Might be helpful if you post this updated info there.  

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

1 minute ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Thanks. I wasn't trying to out your source. Just trying to find an official list. There is a topic on the main immigration news forum. Might be helpful if you post this updated info there.  

I knew you weren't,  and I wasn't trying to be difficult, just following the rules is all.  I'll check out the link, thanks.