Wet Signature For I-134???

[payxibka 10,047]

4 minutes ago, SmallTownPA said:

 

It's UNNECESSARY to get vaccinated for a K1 visa.  Its required for AOS, NOT the K1.  So not doing it makes the K1 SIMPLER. 

 

 

Actually,  I said AOS simpler and it had zero affect on the k1.  

 

If I had followed your advice the AOS process would have actually cost me more actual cash money even before factoring in time away from work chasing down free or low cost vaccinations UNNECESSARILY 

[Mike E 11,742]

42 minutes ago, SmallTownPA said:

 

Postal systems are pretty robust.  My fiancee in Vietnam get packages quite regularly as the local delivery services simply ask locals where they live.  I'm sure its not as easy as USPS, but it still works.  Are there some countries that don't have a robust mail system (or are simply corrupt and make you buy your mail lol), sure.. the world is a big place.

 

In a perfect world, you would visit/attend the interview (at least give your fiance your passport to show that you are there) and hand off the wet signature as required.  

 

If not, take that gamble.   And people wonder why visa's are denied.

I am happy that you can extrapolate from your experience in Vietnam that all postal systems across the world are robust. 
 

Some of us however are forced to live an alternate world (which we parochially call “reality”) where this is not the case. A world where documents from USCIS and State are routinely lost.  Even to USA addresses.  
 

We also live in a world where not all embassies permit the petitioner to attend the interview.  And some of us even live in a world where the embassy neither asks for an I-134 nor accepts one when asked.  
 

I agree with you that each consular office has its own rules and so I don’t discount the possibility that there is one that requires a wet signature for what must be the most useless form in INS and USCIS history.  But I haven’t heard of a single K-1 visa denied for lack of a wet signature.  
 

Photo of a “robust” postal system. This is the routine state of a cluster mailbox.
I will give you three guesses which country.  

Edited February 23, 2020 by Mike E

[Mike E 11,742]

33 minutes ago, SmallTownPA said:

 

It's UNNECESSARY to get vaccinated for a K1 visa.  Its required for AOS, NOT the K1.  So not doing it makes the K1 SIMPLER. 

 

 

Speaking of unnecessary risks.  Maybe a CBP Officer looks closely at POE and decides since the alien isn’t vaccinated she isn’t coming in.  

[geowrian 22,338]

Vaccinations are not required for K-1. Nobody said they were, though.

That said, we've seen plenty of threads about people who didn't do them for the K-1 and now regret it. The main issue is finding a local CS that will transcribe them to I-693 without requiring a new medical exam.

A new medical exam is not required, but it's far from unheard of to not have a local CS willing to do the transcription without it. YMMV

The suggestion is to just do them abroad and get it over with, when possible.

[Greenbaum 12,259]

On 2/20/2020 at 9:31 PM, dnhut861 said:

I read the previous threads on here and got 50:50 answers. some say yes, some say no. so which is it? does the I-134 need to have a Wet signature as of today ? the year 2020.  or can I just scan it and email it to my fiancé???

"Wet signature" question can be embassy specific. Since I don't know your embassy as you have not completed your profile on the left column I can't look up your embassy to see if I have any notes for this requirement. So if you could....

 

Do a little housekeeping on your end. Many of our answers are predicated on the information you supply in your profile. When we look at the left column and can't determine your timeline OR your Embassy it's hard for us to give you a factual answer. Our answers will sometimes be tailored to a specific Embassy hence the reason for you to complete your profile. If you look at the profile of others here, they have a flag for their country, so it makes it easy for us to reply as we can quickly determine their Embassy. The country that should be used is the country where the interview will take place.

 

So, if you could help yourself out and complete your profile that sure would help us out when we want to reply to your question with factual information.

 

Go to the top right of this page select your name (it's on the upper right-hand corner)>my profile>[below your picture on the right column] edit my profile. Scroll to the bottom and fill in "Immigration Info". There now we can better serve you.

 

Once you finish that then return and you will see a flag in your profile. Select it and see what wonderful information will open up for you.

 

Thanks

[jeanieCZ 228]

On 2/23/2020 at 10:06 AM, SmallTownPA said:

You can refuse vaccinations with no penalty.  They are NOT required for a K1.

 

Almost every one of the vaccinations are FREE in the US.  Either by insurance or public health clinics.  A small ($30) fee for a Civil Surgeon to transcribe on the medical form is all you would need to pay.

The vaccinations might be free in the US, I don't know about that. However. Why not get them while you have to see a doctor for your K-1 anyway? You CAN refuse the vaccinations at that stage, you're right, BUT you will NEED to have them administered (or prove youhave had them) during your AOS! If you apply for your Green Card within a year of having had your vaccinations, then you don't need to see a Civil Surgeon in the US, you'll only need to provide a copy of your DS3025.

 

So I think that having your shots during your K-1 medical is much easier than having to find and schedule Civil Surgeon later when in the US. 

[jeanieCZ 228]

On 2/23/2020 at 10:27 AM, SmallTownPA said:

 

It's UNNECESSARY to get vaccinated for a K1 visa.  Its required for AOS, NOT the K1.  So not doing it makes the K1 SIMPLER. 

 

 

You;re just wrong.

[jeanieCZ 228]

On 2/23/2020 at 10:59 AM, Mike E said:

 

I can tell you I was baffled by this! How can the delivery be more riskful?....never imagined sth like this was possible until I moved across the Atlantic. Now I live in an apartment building (add another 50 slots to your picture😂) and regularly get the neighbours' mail 🙄 

Edited February 24, 2020 by jeaniecz

[SmallTownPA 72]

On 2/23/2020 at 10:12 AM, Mike E said:

“May” is not “must”

 

 

I go by this rule of thumb:

 

* If someone is asking if a wet signature from a petitioner is needed for an consular form it is because that country’s postal system is terrible. 
 

* The consular office is also likely aware that the local postal system is terrible. In such offices you will find that they don’t do this packet 1. 2,  3,  4 nonsense.  It is all done over email and/or drop boxes.  
 

So if OP is asking then it is likely that it is because mailing stuff between the USA and country of OP’s beneficiary is hit or miss and mostly miss. 
 

By all means try to mail an I-134 with a wet signature if it worries you but don’t expect it to arrive.  
 

My wife’s country barely has street numbers.  She had no idea what the street number on her residence was. Nor its postal code.  And the embassy did everything over email.  
 

Btw refusing vaccinations is just a bad idea.  

Wow you just jumped in and never read a thing, didn't ya? 

 

There is a choice of I-864 or I-134F.  You can submit either at the HCMC consulate.  That's why is said you 'may' file an I-134F.  The I-134F is going to be phased out, as its only used for one or two visas, the K1 being one.  The I-864 is a legally binding document of support, the I-134 is not, its just informational.  With Trump changing the 'Public Charge' rules hopefully the I-134F will go away and filter out more people who simply will go straight to welfare.

 

Your thumbs are not very smart.

 

 

 

Edited February 24, 2020 by SmallTownPA

[SmallTownPA 72]

1 hour ago, jeaniecz said:

You;re just wrong.

lol found the person who didn't read the instructions.

 

 

[SmallTownPA 72]

On 2/23/2020 at 11:02 AM, Mike E said:

Speaking of unnecessary risks.  Maybe a CBP Officer looks closely at POE and decides since the alien isn’t vaccinated she isn’t coming in.  

 

Wow, just wow.  I mean can you spread any more mis-information?  Now if the person was visibly ill, ok.  But not vaccinated?  You are really not well informed about things.

[jeanieCZ 228]

1 minute ago, SmallTownPA said:

lol found the person who didn't read the instructions.

 

 

Not doing vaccinations during K-1 medical doesn't make K-1 more simple coz you need to have the medical anyway.

Doing the vaccinations during K-1 DOES make the AOS simpler, if you apply within 1 year, coz then you don't need to see a doctor (a US Civil Surgeon) again.

What instructions have I not read, according to you?

[SmallTownPA 72]

On 2/23/2020 at 10:35 AM, payxibka said:

Actually,  I said AOS simpler and it had zero affect on the k1.  

 

If I had followed your advice the AOS process would have actually cost me more actual cash money even before factoring in time away from work chasing down free or low cost vaccinations UNNECESSARILY 

 

Getting free vaccinations is easy.  Getting a CS to transfer them is 10 minutes of work.  The prices charged in some countries make it worth the effort to do it in the US. 

 

You do you. 

[SmallTownPA 72]

1 minute ago, jeaniecz said:

Not doing vaccinations during K-1 medical doesn't make K-1 more simple coz you need to have the medical anyway.

Doing the vaccinations during K-1 DOES make the AOS simpler, if you apply within 1 year, coz then you don't need to see a doctor (a US Civil Surgeon) again.

What instructions have I not read, according to you?

 

Lets see.. free in the US or several hundred dollars abroad?  Hmm... 

 

I've already done an AOS with my first wife.  ABSOLUTELY NO ISSUES.   Every city has a public health office or if you have health insurance a Rite-Aid or some such. 

 

You are just regurgitating what the VJ hive mind thinks is right.  There is a cheaper and better way. 

[jeanieCZ 228]

5 minutes ago, SmallTownPA said:

 

Lets see.. free in the US or several hundred dollars abroad?  Hmm... 

 

I've already done an AOS with my first wife.  ABSOLUTELY NO ISSUES.   Every city has a public health office or if you have health insurance a Rite-Aid or some such. 

 

You are just regurgitating what the VJ hive mind thinks is right.  There is a cheaper and better way. 

I paid 50 USD for the shots (and if my personal circumstances were different, I could have had it for free, but that's not your business). It might cost hundreds of dollars elsewhere. It saved me the hassle of finding and scheduling an appointment with a Civil Surgeon. Cannot have been more easy.

 

I'm not regurgitating anything, am only speaking of my experience which is I'd rather bundle things than do them double.

I guess you're just good at telling ppl they didn't read instructions.

Edited February 24, 2020 by jeaniecz