Trump grants clemency to 11, including former junk bond king Michael Milken

[laylalex 7,300]

Milken I am okay with because he has done a lot of good in terms of charity work in Southern California (my dad's law partner's kids go to the Milken School even). But BLAGOJEVICH??????

 

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-02-18/trump-rod-blagojevich-commute-sentence

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

[MjC772 94]

5 hours ago, laylalex said:

Milken I am okay with because he has done a lot of good in terms of charity work in Southern California (my dad's law partner's kids go to the Milken School even). But BLAGOJEVICH??????

 

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-02-18/trump-rod-blagojevich-commute-sentence

So basically, you're saying it's ok to do bad things as long as you donate to lefty charities? I'll put you down for a Bloomberg vote I guess?

[laylalex 7,300]

It's actually 19 pardons and six commutations for a total of 25. 

 

The issue, I think, is quality, not quantity. ⚖

[laylalex 7,300]

4 minutes ago, MjC772 said:

So basically, you're saying it's ok to do bad things as long as you donate to lefty charities? I'll put you down for a Bloomberg vote I guess?

Oh gosh, not Bloomberg! Yuck.

 

Milken's charity extends beyond political divides. Really. Not sure if you're in the LA area, but he's done a lot here.

 

My fiancé thinks my reasoning is "mental" (he is in finance and finds Milken's sins unpardonable) so he may agree with you!

Edited February 19, 2020 by laylalex
Edit: unclear pronoun

[Steeleballz 7,550]

7 minutes ago, ALFKAD said:

 

   Man you need to stop using other people's twitter vomit to support your takes on everything. Surely you could come up with something on your own?

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

34 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   Man you need to stop using other people's twitter vomit to support your takes on everything. Surely you could come up with something on your own?

I could, but when the work has already been done, why bother?  I'm not tryna make " better Mustangs" than Ford does.  Just driving them real fast is enough for me.

 

Was there a particular number you wished to challenge?

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[laylalex 7,300]

I think you do yourself a grave disservice, ALFKAD. I think you draft far more interesting and nuanced sketches of the news than that rando did. Just my opinion, not meant to be a buttering up of any sort.

[Boiler 45,966]

If I had a list none of those would have made it, not close.

 

I have come across a few examples where this could be justified but no way would they have the presence to attract this sort of attention.

[laylalex 7,300]

13 minutes ago, Boiler said:

If I had a list none of those would have made it, not close.

 

I have come across a few examples where this could be justified but no way would they have the presence to attract this sort of attention.

The thing is he commuted the sentences of some people he could have bragged about (drug offenders) and didn't. 

[Boiler 45,966]

6 minutes ago, laylalex said:

The thing is he commuted the sentences of some people he could have bragged about (drug offenders) and didn't. 

I think drug offenders may be a bit too wide a term, I am going to assume you did not mean it quite that broadly. There are some so called legal drug dealers that I would like to see behind bars for a very long term.

 

Just saw a couple of names on the list whose back story I do know and where sympathy is difficult to find.

[laylalex 7,300]

6 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I think drug offenders may be a bit too wide a term, I am going to assume you did not mean it quite that broadly. There are some so called legal drug dealers that I would like to see behind bars for a very long term.

 

Just saw a couple of names on the list whose back story I do know and where sympathy is difficult to find.

I meant Hall and Munoz. Hall was serving an 18 year sentence for allowing drugs to be distributed from of her home. Munoz drew a map that showed where checkpoints along the Mexican border were that was used by drug smugglers. Another 18 year sentence. 

[Boiler 45,966]

I do not know those cases, I was thinking of Purdue Pharmacy.

[Dashinka 24,744]

2 hours ago, laylalex said:

It's actually 19 pardons and six commutations for a total of 25. 

 

The issue, I think, is quality, not quantity. ⚖

So the LA Times cannot count?

[laylalex 7,300]

8 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I do not know those cases, I was thinking of Purdue Pharmacy.

I think he could have done himself some good by bringing those cases out a bit more. He missed an opportunity.