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Hey all! First time poster here. I’ve read lots and just wanted to start off by saying thanks to all the lovely people people on here providing help.

 

so my situation is difficult. I’m European living in Spain and my  US fiancée is living in Greece at the moment. We want to get married in the US but we don’t want to live in the States right now. After marrying we want to live together in Greece. 
 

In the Distant future (years down the line) we may want to live in the States. 
 

My doubt is if there’s any reason why I should get a K1 visa at all. Could I not opt for a k3 From Greece? I’m worried about 3 things. 
1. Will I be allowed to marry my fiancée in the US on a visa waiver which i can get as a European?

2. Will it put at risk potential future visa applications? Again, I wouldn’t be looking for an AOS while in the states to marry her.

3. I’ve read on here that you need to apply for the k3 from the country where you got married but this would hopefully be the States and we want to live and work in Greece after our honeymoon...

 

I’d appreciate any help or answers to my questions. Thanks 😊 

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1.  Yes.  However, you can not stay in the US and adjust status.....You must leave the US to complete the CR-1 process.  It is not lawful to enter the US as a non-immigrant with the intent to stay and adjust status.

2.  See #1 above.

3.  K-3 visas are dead.  Only 5 were issued last year.  The CR-1 is alive and well for those who are married.  I recommend the CR-1.  You can file a CR-1 from anywhere in the world after marriage.

Every couple has their own priorities, and each couple must decide which visa is better for their situation.

K-1 (requires marriage in the US after visa issue)
    Slightly faster arrival in the US 
    More expensive than CR-1    
    Requires Adjustment of Status after marriage (expensive and requires a lot of paperwork)    
    Spouse can not leave the US until she/he receives approved Advance Parole (approx 5-6 months)    
    Spouse can not work until she/he receives EAD (approx 5-6 months)    
    Some people have had problems with driver licenses, Social Security cards, leases, bank account during this period    
    Spouse will not receive Green Card for many months after Adjustment of Status is filed.

  

CR-1
    Slightly slower arrival in the US

    Less expensive than K-1    
    No Adjustment of Status(I-485, I-131, I-765) required.    
    Spouse can immediately travel outside the US    
    Spouse is authorized to work immediately upon arrival.    
    Spouse receives Social Security Card and Green Card within 2 or 3 weeks after entering the US    
    Opening a bank account, getting a driver's license, etc. are very easily accomplished with GC, SS card, and passport.

    Spouse has legal permanent Resident status IMMEDIATELY upon entry to US.
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"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

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______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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14 minutes ago, Saihtiam said:

Hey all! First time poster here. I’ve read lots and just wanted to start off by saying thanks to all the lovely people people on here providing help.

 

so my situation is difficult. I’m European living in Spain and my  US fiancée is living in Greece at the moment. We want to get married in the US but we don’t want to live in the States right now. After marrying we want to live together in Greece. 
 

In the Distant future (years down the line) we may want to live in the States. 
 

My doubt is if there’s any reason why I should get a K1 visa at all. Could I not opt for a k3 From Greece? I’m worried about 3 things. 
1. Will I be allowed to marry my fiancée in the US on a visa waiver which i can get as a European?

2. Will it put at risk potential future visa applications? Again, I wouldn’t be looking for an AOS while in the states to marry her.

3. I’ve read on here that you need to apply for the k3 from the country where you got married but this would hopefully be the States and we want to live and work in Greece after our honeymoon...

 

I’d appreciate any help or answers to my questions. Thanks 😊 

Neither visa is for you if you have no intention of living in the US.  There are domicile and US income requirements for the petitioner, and residential requirements for maintaining a green card once you have it.

 

You can certainly come to the US and marry on your ESTA, and then return to Europe and she can petition you for a CR/IR-1 visa if and when you two decide to live in the US.

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I know people here are helpful but that was a really fast reply! Thanks to you both for your help!

 

Should I be concerned about convincing customs and border agents about my intent to leave after marriage?

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Just now, Saihtiam said:

I know people here are helpful but that was a really fast reply! Thanks to you both for your help!

 

Should I be concerned about convincing customs and border agents about my intent to leave after marriage?

You will need to convince the CBP officer that you will leave after your visit.  You will need evidence of strong ties to your country.  Denial of entry is always a possibility.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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Moved from IR-1/CR-1 Process & Procedures to What Visa Do I Need - Family Based Immigration forum.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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