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I am married to USC for 3.5 years now. I have to apply for ROC in April, GC is expiring in July. I moved to States in July 2018, in May 2019 husband and I had an argument. Since then till now he is living at his parents and I’m living at our marital house (been 9 months). We are still married. He is ready to file joint petition and go to interview but I’m so confused how to go about it. He wants divorce soon too. Should I go for joint petition or it’s better to get divorce and file with a waiver? Any help @mindthegap@Villanelle

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In my opinion you should file a divorce if that is your plan because part of the removal of conditions is showing proof of your relationship.. and if you are planning to divorce a waiver may be in your best interest.. staying married for the sake of ROC isn’t right IMO

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4 minutes ago, Luckycuds said:

In my opinion you should file a divorce if that is your plan because part of the removal of conditions is showing proof of your relationship.. and if you are planning to divorce a waiver may be in your best interest

Thank you for reply. In California, it takes 6 months to get final divorce decree by the time I have to apply, I won’t have the final divorce in hand. Can I still apply with waiver, if divorce is under proceedings? 

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Yes.

However, it cannot be approved without being final.

 

Note if filing jointly you can apply at any time within the 90 day period....and if filing with a divorce waiver you can file at any time - including after expiry of your card and before or after that 90 day period. This is explicitly permitted (and stated as such in the instructions).

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

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10 minutes ago, mindthegap said:

Yes.

However, it cannot be approved without being final.

 

Note if filing jointly you can apply at any time within the 90 day period....and if filing with a divorce waiver you can file at any time - including after expiry of your card and before or after that 90 day period. This is explicitly permitted (and stated as such in the instructions).

Thanks for replying. What are the chances of getting ROC approved with divorce? Any idea? I do have joint account, car insurance, health insurance, same address drivers license, same address utility bills, joint traveling history, tickets, letter from marriage counsellor, letters from family members, tons of family pictures. Bills of him buying me phone, car services, him paying for our house mortgage, all our bills on same address, invitations, cards, gifts from family, text messages and all.

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9 hours ago, Mandysahota said:

 What are the chances of getting ROC approved with divorce? 

Divorce is not a reason for denial, or reason for prejudice.

All petitions are adjudicated on the evidence of bona-fide-ness provided.

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

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4 hours ago, mindthegap said:

Divorce is not a reason for denial, or reason for prejudice.

All petitions are adjudicated on the evidence of bona-fide-ness provided.

Thanks for replying! My GC is expiring in July. What would you suggest, to go for uncontested divorce with a compromise so it can be done in 6 months or I can go for contested divorce to take 50% of everything. Would filing a contested divorce drag and be timing consuming? Will Immigration give me enough time to send them the final divorce decree? Or getting it done with compromise by not asking anything from husband be better because this might be faster (in 6months)

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On 2/18/2020 at 11:41 AM, Mandysahota said:

Thanks for replying! My GC is expiring in July. What would you suggest, to go for uncontested divorce with a compromise so it can be done in 6 months or I can go for contested divorce to take 50% of everything. Would filing a contested divorce drag and be timing consuming? Will Immigration give me enough time to send them the final divorce decree? Or getting it done with compromise by not asking anything from husband be better because this might be faster (in 6months)

Contested divorces take longer.  Just because it's uncontested doesn't mean you get nothing.  That's up to a judge. 

You file the ROC when it's time file regardless if your divorce is finalized or not. They will RFE for your divorce decree. 

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On 2/21/2020 at 6:02 AM, NikLR said:

Contested divorces take longer.  Just because it's uncontested doesn't mean you get nothing.  That's up to a judge. 

You file the ROC when it's time file regardless if your divorce is finalized or not. They will RFE for your divorce decree. 

Thanks for replying!! Do you have any idea what happens if I get RFE for divorce certificate but divorce is not yet final. I know I will get 87 days to send it but what if divorce doesn’t get finalised by then and I don’t get divorce decree? Would the case be sent to Immigration court, how long it can stay there? Any idea? @mindthegap

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33 minutes ago, Mandysahota said:

I have filed divorce 2 days back and my green card is expiring in July. Should I apply for ROC now or wait till June-July? What’s better? 

Yes file.  Under divorce waiver you can file anytime.

March 2, 2018  Married In Hong Kong

April 30, 2018  Mary moves from the Philippines to Mexico, Husband has MX Permanent Residency

June 13, 2018 Mary receives Mexican Residency Card

June 15, 2018  I-130 DCF Appointment in Juarez  -  June 18, 2018  Approval E-Mail

August 2, 2018 Case Complete At Consulate

September 25, 2018 Interview in CDJ and Approved!

October 7, 2018 In the USA

October 27, 2018 Green Card received 

October 29, 2018 Applied for Social Security Card - November 5, 2018 Social Security Card received

November 6th, 2018 State ID Card Received, Applied for Global Entry - Feb 8,2019 Approved.

July 14, 2020 Removal of Conditions submitted by mail  July 12, 2021 Biometrics Completed

August 6, 2021 N-400 submitted by mail

September 7, 2021 I-751 Interview, Sept 8 Approved and Card Being Produced

October 21, 2021 N-400 Biometrics Completed  

November 30,2021  Interview, Approval and Oath

December 10, 2021 US Passport Issued

August 12, 2022 PHL Dual Nationality Re-established & Passport Approved 

April 6,2023 Legally Separated - Oh well

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13 minutes ago, Mandysahota said:

I have filed divorce 2 days back.  I have to do taxes and my husband is asking me to do joint taxes. My husband doesn’t know that I have filed divorce yet. Should I go for joint taxes or separate? Would there be any issues in ROC if I do joint taxes after filing for divorce? Any suggestions?

Married filing separately is a good option.

 

At what point is your husband going to be served the divorce?

March 2, 2018  Married In Hong Kong

April 30, 2018  Mary moves from the Philippines to Mexico, Husband has MX Permanent Residency

June 13, 2018 Mary receives Mexican Residency Card

June 15, 2018  I-130 DCF Appointment in Juarez  -  June 18, 2018  Approval E-Mail

August 2, 2018 Case Complete At Consulate

September 25, 2018 Interview in CDJ and Approved!

October 7, 2018 In the USA

October 27, 2018 Green Card received 

October 29, 2018 Applied for Social Security Card - November 5, 2018 Social Security Card received

November 6th, 2018 State ID Card Received, Applied for Global Entry - Feb 8,2019 Approved.

July 14, 2020 Removal of Conditions submitted by mail  July 12, 2021 Biometrics Completed

August 6, 2021 N-400 submitted by mail

September 7, 2021 I-751 Interview, Sept 8 Approved and Card Being Produced

October 21, 2021 N-400 Biometrics Completed  

November 30,2021  Interview, Approval and Oath

December 10, 2021 US Passport Issued

August 12, 2022 PHL Dual Nationality Re-established & Passport Approved 

April 6,2023 Legally Separated - Oh well

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