RFE, joint sponsor doesn’t qualify can I use my petitioner (husband) [merged topics]

[Sara & Kevin 14]

4 hours ago, belinda63 said:

As stated previously they will look at his history of income. It is easy to manipulate a self-employed tax return to show a high income after deductions for one year but will he be able to sustain that income, in other words continue to not take deductions? Or is this a one time sacrifice of not claiming deductions to make his income look acceptable? 

Amm not realy. my husband bought 2trucks for his work in the year of 2018 he was allowed to write %90 of them.. so he was wrote off almost $60,000 so his income was $8000 so no he did not manipulated his taxes it’s the way self employex people do things and their tax people do it.. 

[Sara & Kevin 14]

Hello! I hope someone can help me! 

What documents does a petitioner that is self employed need to file with the form I-864? 

And is it true when you are self-employed you need to show 3years of taxes? 

Thank you

[Ryan H 3,819]

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7 minutes ago, Sara & Kevin said:

Hello! I hope someone can help me! 

What documents does a petitioner that is self employed need to file with the form I-864? 

And is it true when you are self-employed you need to show 3years of taxes? 

Thank you

 

[Ayrton 965]

13 minutes ago, Sara & Kevin said:

Hello! I hope someone can help me! 

What documents does a petitioner that is self employed need to file with the form I-864? 

And is it true when you are self-employed you need to show 3years of taxes? 

Thank you

All required documents are on the instructions for the I-864.

[Cornflake 108]

7 minutes ago, Ayrton said:

All required documents are on the instructions for the I-864.

It's kinda more complicated for self employed sponsors. Not all documents are on the instructions. I found information about self employment all over USCIS web site. 

 

I couldn't find exact list of all documents needed. For my AOS I added everything I could. But I just sent it so I can't tell if it's correct or not. 

[Sara & Kevin 14]

4 minutes ago, Cornflake said:

It's kinda more complicated for self employed sponsors. Not all documents are on the instructions. I found information about self employment all over USCIS web site. 

 

I couldn't find exact list of all documents needed. For my AOS I added everything I could. But I just sent it so I can't tell if it's correct or not. 

Hmm that’s weird.. why they don’t include everything on the instruction then? I think I will send my husbands tax returns for 2019, tax transcripts from IRS, 1099, all the schedules on the return that apply to him, showing he is an LLC company... Idk what else is there to send..

[Cornflake 108]

3 minutes ago, Sara & Kevin said:

Hmm that’s weird.. why they don’t include everything on the instruction then? I think I will send my husbands tax returns for 2019, tax transcripts from IRS, 1099, all the schedules on the return that apply to him, showing he is an LLC company... Idk what else is there to send..

I sent pretty much the same and also I added some licenses to show that his business continuously working since 2016. Also I included business license, I've read about it somewhere) 

[Sara & Kevin 14]

2 minutes ago, Cornflake said:

I sent pretty much the same and also I added some licenses to show that his business continuously working since 2016. Also I included business license, I've read about it somewhere) 

Yes i asked my husband about it and in our state Michigan there is no requirement for a lisence so he doesn’t have it but his LLC will show he has this company for 7years now, so I hope that is enough!

[Ayrton 965]

23 minutes ago, Cornflake said:

It's kinda more complicated for self employed sponsors. Not all documents are on the instructions. I found information about self employment all over USCIS web site. 

 

I couldn't find exact list of all documents needed. For my AOS I added everything I could. But I just sent it so I can't tell if it's correct or not. 

 

Not really. The instructions are pretty clear on what documents they want to see when the sponsor is self employed.

 

[Cornflake 108]

44 minutes ago, Ayrton said:

 

Not really. The instructions are pretty clear on what documents they want to see when the sponsor is self employed.

 

Did you have real experience? 

[Ayrton 965]

30 minutes ago, Cornflake said:

Did you have real experience? 

No. But I searched here on the forum and couldn't find a single RFE about that.

 

Something that I learned though is that people tend to overcomplicate their packages and end up getting RFE because of some extra documents that they sent when they were not required to.

 

The instructions are there to be followed. If for some reason someone gets an RFE for a document that was not on the list (which I've never seen it happening), it's because something triggered the officer to ask for it.

[Sara & Kevin 14]

7 hours ago, Ayrton said:

No. But I searched here on the forum and couldn't find a single RFE about that.

 

Something that I learned though is that people tend to overcomplicate their packages and end up getting RFE because of some extra documents that they sent when they were not required to.

 

The instructions are there to be followed. If for some reason someone gets an RFE for a document that was not on the list (which I've never seen it happening), it's because something triggered the officer to ask for it.

The safest is to follow the instruction.

But they did send me an RFE on my joint sponsor saying he doesn’t make enough and he makes waaaaay over the poverty guideline.. so i guess they do send rfe for that reason, he is retired and maybe there is differwn’t types of document out there. My experience 

[Ayrton 965]

43 minutes ago, Sara & Kevin said:

The safest is to follow the instruction.

But they did send me an RFE on my joint sponsor saying he doesn’t make enough and he makes waaaaay over the poverty guideline.. so i guess they do send rfe for that reason, he is retired and maybe there is differwn’t types of document out there. My experience 

Your RFE was for your joint sponsor, it had nothing to do with your self employed spouse.

 

Like I said before, 99% of the times RFEs are sent saying the sponsor doesn't make enough, it's because a required document was not sent. Therefore, the sponsor is ineligible = the sponsor doesn't make enough.

 

To understand what triggered the RFE we need to know exactly what documents you sent. On a previous posto you said: "we sended them Tax Transcripts, Tax Returns and even SS Benefits stubs to show that the mom only amde like $5000 a year from their $60,000 income".

 

Did you send the 1099 for the joint sponsor showing his retired income? By your post, it seems like you sent it for his wife, which it won't make sense to them. You need his 1099 to show he made 55K, not hers to show she made 5k. Also, if you wrote his wife income on his form I-864, you must've sent a I-864a for her.

 

Also you said you sent both Tax Transcript and Tax Return, which the instructions clearly tell you not to do so.

 

Anyways, saying one more time: Every required document is in the instructions pdf. It's 17 pages, so it's easy to overlook. 

Edited February 17, 2020 by Ayrton

[Sara & Kevin 14]

15 minutes ago, Ayrton said:

Your RFE was for your joint sponsor, it had nothing to do with your self employed spouse.

 

Like I said before, 99% of the times RFEs are sent saying the sponsor doesn't make enough, it's because a required document was not sent. Therefore, the sponsor is ineligible = the sponsor doesn't make enough.

 

To understand what triggered the RFE we need to know exactly what documents you sent. On a previous posto you said: "we sended them Tax Transcripts, Tax Returns and even SS Benefits stubs to show that the mom only amde like $5000 a year from their $60,000 income".

 

Did you send the 1099 for the joint sponsor showing his retired income? By your post, it seems like you sent it for his wife, which it won't make sense to them. You need his 1099 to show he made 55K, not hers to show she made 5k. Also, if you wrote his wife income on his form I-864, you must've sent a I-864a for her.

 

Also you said you sent both Tax Transcript and Tax Return, which the instructions clearly tell you not to do so.

 

Anyways, saying one more time: Every required document is in the instructions pdf. It's 17 pages, so it's easy to overlook

16 minutes ago, Ayrton said:

Your RFE was for your joint sponsor, it had nothing to do with your self employed spouse.

 

Like I said before, 99% of the times RFEs are sent saying the sponsor doesn't make enough, it's because a required document was not sent. Therefore, the sponsor is ineligible = the sponsor doesn't make enough.

 

To understand what triggered the RFE we need to know exactly what documents you sent. On a previous posto you said: "we sended them Tax Transcripts, Tax Returns and even SS Benefits stubs to show that the mom only amde like $5000 a year from their $60,000 income".

 

Did you send the 1099 for the joint sponsor showing his retired income? By your post, it seems like you sent it for his wife, which it won't make sense to them. You need his 1099 to show he made 55K, not hers to show she made 5k. Also, if you wrote his wife income on his form I-864, you must've sent a I-864a for her.

 

Also you said you sent both Tax Transcript and Tax Return, which the instructions clearly tell you not to do so.

 

Anyways, saying one more time: Every required document is in the instructions pdf. It's 17 pages, so it's easy to overlook. 

We sended :Tax transcripts, tax returns, 1099s, and social security benigit stubs as a retured person you get 2incomes, at least my father in law he get’s one from his retirement and kne from the benefits from social security. So we sended EVERYTHING but look it was an RFE.. 

[SalishSea 18,073]

5 hours ago, Sara & Kevin said:

We sended :Tax transcripts, tax returns, 1099s, and social security benigit stubs as a retured person you get 2incomes, at least my father in law he get’s one from his retirement and kne from the benefits from social security. So we sended EVERYTHING but look it was an RFE.. 

Again, it was not due to missing documents.  It was due to ineligible/inadequate joint sponsor.