Question about the Sponsor

[rahan72 0]

Hi all

 

the first point:

Is it necessary? Are we forced to have one

if not:

It depends on what?

In our case for example: a family with 5 members, 3 children, 2 adults

 

thanks alot for your reply

[AGF 146]

15 minutes ago, rahan72 said:

16 minutes ago, rahan72 said:

Hi all

 

the first point:

Is it necessary? Are we forced to have one

if not:

It depends on what?

In our case for example: a family with 5 members, 3 children, 2 adults

 

thanks alot for your reply

It will depend on the required minimum income for your household size.. you may refer to the poverty guidelines for this.

[Boiler 45,538]

There is no requirement for a sponsor just show you meet the requirements.

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

46 minutes ago, rahan72 said:

Hi all

 

the first point:

Is it necessary? Are we forced to have one

if not:

It depends on what?

In our case for example: a family with 5 members, 3 children, 2 adults

 

thanks alot for your reply

For DV? Only Sri Lanka insists always on a sponsor, but other embassies might in individual cases. It depends on the adults in the family - their education, jobs, assets etc. for your family, as an example, two adults with just high school diplomas and very casual job experience is different to two high school graduates who have a good hardworking history of jobs, to two university graduates with professional careers ... there is no definitive distinction, just some examples. Basically they want to know you will be able to work to support yourself and your family.

I am not sure how/if DV sponsorship changes when the new public charge regulations come in. 

[rahan72 0]

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It will depend on the required minimum income for your household size.. you may refer to the poverty guidelines for this.

families/households with more than 8 persons, add $4,480 for each additional person.
1	$12,760
2	$17,240
3	$21,720
4	$26,200
5	$30,680

I saw that one..

 

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I am not sure how/if DV sponsorship changes when the new public charge regulations come in

Apparently in Algeria they started to use this. I heard that many had a refusal because of this, but I don't know their real situation ( Job, families and funds).

[rahan72 0]

For my situation, me and my wife have a job, we have university degrees. My wife is the applicant, and she doesn't speak English. I don't know if a full bank account will do the job.

[arken 4,197]

Your employment doesn’t matter. If i134 is a requirement for DV lottery, then either you need to have big savings in bank account that you can bring to the US or you need a sponsor from the US.

[NikLR 13,227]

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/do-lottery-visa-winners-need-affidavit-of-support-with-green-card-application.html

 

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o Need for I-864 Affidavit of Support for Lottery Winners

The good news is, unlike family visa applicants, Diversity Visa Lottery (“DV Lottery”) winners do not need to file an I-864 Affidavit of Support in order to apply for permanent residence.

They will nevertheless need to demonstrate to U.S Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) or the Department of State (DOS) that they will not become a public charge (rely on public assistance benefits) during their time in the United States. It's possible for you to do this by either:

• demonstrating that you have sufficient income and other assets to support yourself once you are granted permanent residence, or
• having a friend or relative who has legal status in the U.S. complete Form I-134, Affidavit of Support and agree to sponsor you during your time in the United States. For more information on this, see Filling Out Form I-134, Affidavit of Support to Help a U.S. Visa Applicant.

"Assets" means property like investments, savings, and real estate (so long as it can be easily converted to cash). So, if you don't have a current income, showing a source of wealth or cash can help your application for a green card.

If family members are immigrating through the DV winner, they must also be listed on the Form I-134 as accompanying you, and the income and assets listed on Form I-134 must be enough to cover them, too.

 

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

3 hours ago, arken said:

Your employment doesn’t matter. If i134 is a requirement for DV lottery, then either you need to have big savings in bank account that you can bring to the US or you need a sponsor from the US.

It’s not a requirement in most cases.

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

4 hours ago, rahan72 said:

For my situation, me and my wife have a job, we have university degrees. My wife is the applicant, and she doesn't speak English. I don't know if a full bank account will do the job.

She’s going to need to learn English if she wants to work in a decent job (and in general), there are free English as a second language courses in most places for immigrants.  A decent bank balance and two degrees would generally be fine for DV, but the English could be a practical issue for her. 

[SalishSea 17,837]

Just curious, are DV applicants subject to the same limitations on receiving public benefits in the US?

Edited February 15, 2020 by Jorgedig

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

12 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

Just curious, are DV applicants subject to the same limitations on receiving public benefits in the US?

Absolutely, same as any other green card holder, but they are self-sponsored rather than family or employer sponsored - hence no fundamental requirement for an affidavit of support. It is only asked for when COs are not sure about the ability of the immigrant to support themself (and always in Sri Lanka for reasons I am not clear on). A number of countries of origin work on an informal but well founded “host” system, where someone they know or their family knows, hosts them and their family until they find jobs and get on their own feet. It is surprisingly effective. Of course such immigrants don’t need to be particularly qualified or rich - just hardworking enough to sustain themselves. 
 

as an aside, FYI, research among green card holders has found that on average DV immigrants are higher qualified and hold a higher % of white collar jobs than family based immigrants. I’m guessing this partly reflects that they have to show they can hold their own rather than just be sponsored by someone. 

[SalishSea 17,837]

53 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

Absolutely, same as any other green card holder, but they are self-sponsored rather than family or employer sponsored - hence no fundamental requirement for an affidavit of support. It is only asked for when COs are not sure about the ability of the immigrant to support themself (and always in Sri Lanka for reasons I am not clear on). A number of countries of origin work on an informal but well founded “host” system, where someone they know or their family knows, hosts them and their family until they find jobs and get on their own feet. It is surprisingly effective. Of course such immigrants don’t need to be particularly qualified or rich - just hardworking enough to sustain themselves. 
 

as an aside, FYI, research among green card holders has found that on average DV immigrants are higher qualified and hold a higher % of white collar jobs than family based immigrants. I’m guessing this partly reflects that they have to show they can hold their own rather than just be sponsored by someone. 

Interesting, thanks SusieQQQ.

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

25 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

Interesting, thanks SusieQQQ.

As an aside, this is one of my favorite DV stories. Kenyan won the lottery, realized his dream of becoming a pilot with the USAF.  
https://guriixusjourney.wordpress.com/author/guriix/

 

So many realized American Dream stories with DV, even if it’s a typical first gen works hard at low paying jobs but second gen goes the college/professional route. Weird to think it started to get more Irish immigrants in!

[SalishSea 17,837]

8 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

As an aside, this is one of my favorite DV stories. Kenyan won the lottery, realized his dream of becoming a pilot with the USAF.  
https://guriixusjourney.wordpress.com/author/guriix/

 

So many realized American Dream stories with DV, even if it’s a typical first gen works hard at low paying jobs but second gen goes the college/professional route. Weird to think it started to get more Irish immigrants in!

Nice blog piece!  Love the pics, too.  Kenya is on my bucket list.

 

I think about the immigrant stories of my own people a lot.  They were primarily Swedish and Finn, and came over in the 1860s I believe.  The Finns spoke Swedish and had Swedish names, which benefited them because of anti-Finnish sentiment.  In some ways it was easier to immigrate to America then, and in some ways much harder.