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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Egypt
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I just received the new bilingual (English & Arabic) Marriage & Birth Certificates. I have already had them stamped by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. However I can't find any answers on the embassy website as to whether or not these certificates (specifically our Egyptian Marriage Certificate) need authenticated by the US Embassy or not.

 

Any Info would help greatly as I have searched everywhere and can not find an answer. (Just today we sent in our documents to NVC with only the certificates having been stamped by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs office as I had seen somewhere else in the forums that people had luck with that. But I would like to know this for future use when it comes time for the interview.)

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They don’t need to be authenticated by the  US embassy. However, they are issued recently, lots of years after your birth and ir marriage, USCIS may ask for secondary evidences of birth and/or marriage evidenced due to the late registration.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Egypt
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14 hours ago, arken said:

They don’t need to be authenticated by the  US embassy. However, they are issued recently, lots of years after your birth and ir marriage, USCIS may ask for secondary evidences of birth and/or marriage evidenced due to the late registration.

Thanks. I don't believe they should ask for other evidence as I have seen on the forums lately that people were being requested to send in these new forms instead of the old ones. Does it not need authenticated by the embassy due to being a government doc.? I know that if an arabic one were to be translated it would need authenticated for immigration to the US based on the embassy website but they mention nothing about this one.

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4 minutes ago, BMWFIRE said:

Thanks. I don't believe they should ask for other evidence as I have seen on the forums lately that people were being requested to send in these new forms instead of the old ones. Does it not need authenticated by the embassy due to being a government doc.? I know that if an arabic one were to be translated it would need authenticated for immigration to the US based on the embassy website but they mention nothing about this one.

We had an english / chinese  marriage certificate and no one asked for anything else.

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4 hours ago, Paul & Mary said:

We had an english / chinese  marriage certificate and no one asked for anything else.

Did you two have to have your bilingual marriage certificate authenticated by the embassy for immigration to the US/it to be legal in the US? I can't seem to find for sure whether or not it needs authenticated or if it doesn't need to be due to being an official document

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8 hours ago, BMWFIRE said:

Did you two have to have your bilingual marriage certificate authenticated by the embassy for immigration to the US/it to be legal in the US? I can't seem to find for sure whether or not it needs authenticated or if it doesn't need to be due to being an official document

Since Hong Kong is a member of the Hague Apostille  Convention we did not have to do anything else.    Egypt is not a member.   I expect you would have to go thru some extra steps.  Have you looked at the US State Department Document reciprocity guide?

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November 30,2021  Interview, Approval and Oath

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16 hours ago, Paul & Mary said:

Since Hong Kong is a member of the Hague Apostille  Convention we did not have to do anything else.    Egypt is not a member.   I expect you would have to go thru some extra steps.  Have you looked at the US State Department Document reciprocity guide?

Yes I have. It does say to get the bilingual certificates but says nothing else about authentication. The only place that mentions authentication at all is the  instructions for marriage page on the embassy website but doesn't mention the new bilingual certificates either. So it's pretty confusing.

 

 "To use the marriage certificate in the U.S., it should be translated into English at the Notary Public Authority-located on 57 Ramses Street, Cairo.  It takes 1-2 days to receive the translation, which must then be authenticated by the Egyptian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and authenticated by the American Citizen Services Unit at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo ($50.00).

Please note: If you do obtain an English marriage certificate from the Egyptian Ministry of Justice Translation office, you DO NOT need to have it authenticated at the American Embassy to use for immigration in the United States. "

 

 That's all it says, but I believe the bilingual certificates may be fairly new here according to what I've heard and this page is older so that could be why I can't find mention of it anywhere else.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Egypt
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The bilingual new certificates are issued by the Ministry of Justice. They replace the old system which was a separate MOJ translation. You only need the MOFA stamp not that of the US embassy.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Egypt
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I got my DQ with the bilingual certificates, so at least for the documents sent to the NVC no embassy stamp is required! Still wondering if an embassy stamp is needed to go INTO the US, i'm assuming no. Will update if so.

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