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I have heard that once your fiance' is ready to come to the US, that their ticket should be a round trip and not a one way. Is this advice coming from the US Embassy?  I understand that most round trip tickets are even cheaper than a one way. I'm just wondering about the messaging that the Embassy is sending.  What is your opinion? And for those of you lucky enough to have your fiance/wife here already, what did you do?  

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16 minutes ago, Elmer/Bella said:

I have heard that once your fiance' is ready to come to the US, that their ticket should be a round trip and not a one way. Is this advice coming from the US Embassy?  I understand that most round trip tickets are even cheaper than a one way. I'm just wondering about the messaging that the Embassy is sending.  What is your opinion? And for those of you lucky enough to have your fiance/wife here already, what did you do?  

We booked my wife (At that time she was my fiancé) a one way ticket because it was cheaper that way than the round trip. Obviously we are fine. 

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As others have stated, doesn't matter, go with the cheapest route. Either one way or round trip ticket.

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Agreed with al the others - either route is fine. If you do the round trip, be sure to cancel the return lag after arrival. There are cases where USCIS thought somebody left the country (thereby abandoning AOS) because they were still recorded on the manifests. This should be fixable, but it's not something you want to have to deal with.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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5 hours ago, Elmer/Bella said:

I have heard that once your fiance' is ready to come to the US, that their ticket should be a round trip and not a one way. Is this advice coming from the US Embassy?  I understand that most round trip tickets are even cheaper than a one way. I'm just wondering about the messaging that the Embassy is sending.  What is your opinion? And for those of you lucky enough to have your fiance/wife here already, what did you do?  

You don't need a roundtrip ticket. Sometimes i can cause more problems if not canceled. 

 

You definitely need a roundtrip ticket if using ESTA. Maybe for B too? Never had a B visa so not sure.

 

When got my K1 I bought a one way ticket because it was travel season and it was cheaper than a round-trip.

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8 minutes ago, ineedadisplayname said:

You definitely need a roundtrip ticket if using ESTA. Maybe for B too? Never had a B visa so not sure.

Not required for a B, although not having one can certainly raise questions about intentions.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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4 hours ago, geowrian said:

If you do the round trip, be sure to cancel the return lag after arrival. There are cases where USCIS thought somebody left the country (thereby abandoning AOS) because they were still recorded on the manifests

Heed this.  Amidst everything else to remember during a hectic time, handling this is crucial.

Record the name of the airline employee with whom you cancel the return, and the date/time.

Keep this information with your permanent file of immigration papers.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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2 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Heed this.  Amidst everything else to remember during a hectic time, handling this is crucial.

Record the name of the airline employee with whom you cancel the return, and the date/time.

Keep this information with your permanent file of immigration papers.

Why? Asking since I'm about to cancel my return ticket 😊

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8 minutes ago, AnneA said:

Why? Asking since I'm about to cancel my return ticket 😊

Because, as referenced above by Geowrian, there have been VJ members who have had issues later with AP/greencard abandonment when they were thought to have left the US on that return ticket.  Airline passenger manifests are not always 100% accurate.

 

By documenting the how/when/who of a cancelled return ticket, you have evidence of never having left.

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1 minute ago, Jorgedig said:

Because, as referenced above by Geowrian, there have been VJ members who have had issues later with AP/greencard abandonment when they were thought to have left the US on that return ticket.  Airline passenger manifests are not always 100% accurate.

 

By documenting the how/when/who of a cancelled return ticket, you have evidence of never having left.

Thank you missed that one when I skimmed through .. I was going to cancel online. Wouldn't the I-94 prove that you didn't leave .. I mean that it would be more valid than passenger manifest?

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22 minutes ago, AnneA said:

Thank you missed that one when I skimmed through .. I was going to cancel online. Wouldn't the I-94 prove that you didn't leave .. I mean that it would be more valid than passenger manifest?

1) The I-94 being marked as exiting is likely what would alert USCIS that you left. The US does not have immigration counters when you exit - they use APIS for exit controls. If you are on the aircraft's manifest that gets submitted, your I-94 would be updated as leaving the US.

2) Even if the I-94 didn't get updated, it may suggest you didn't leave, but certainly does not prove it. A lack of evidence is not evidence itself. Just because you don't have an I-94 showing you left does not mean you didn't leave, just as the lack of an I-94 when somebody enters does not mean they did not (legally) enter. This is not that uncommon with land crossings, and was sort of the norm at them not that long ago.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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6 minutes ago, geowrian said:

1) The I-94 being marked as exiting is likely what would alert USCIS that you left. The US does not have immigration counters when you exit - they use APIS for exit controls. If you are on the aircraft's manifest that gets submitted, your I-94 would be updated as leaving the US.

2) Even if the I-94 didn't get updated, it may suggest you didn't leave, but certainly does not prove it. A lack of evidence is not evidence itself. Just because you don't have an I-94 showing you left does not mean you didn't leave, just as the lack of an I-94 when somebody enters does not mean they did not (legally) enter. This is not that uncommon with land crossings, and was sort of the norm at them not that long ago.

I see 😳 but will a name, date, time be enough to prove it then? And how can you prove you didn't leave?

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