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Hello all,

 

I am currently in the ROC process where I had my biometrics done in January. I filed in September.

 

My marriage was entered in good faith but it was rocky due to different cultures and different perspectives.

 

My husband who is the USC, has decided that he wants to end the marriage but he wants to file for divorce after we sell our house. Divorce takes about 6 months in my state.

 

I have tried to make this work but I am reaching a point where I am stressed, anxious and afraid. We have done counseling.

 

I find myself in a dilemma because I feel like even if I wanted to change the status to filing based on divorce, I wouldn't be able to do anything until I get the divorce papers finalized.

 

My husband says that he will help me with papers but I do not want to be unprepared.

 

Any one experiencing or has experienced this?

 

My case status hasn't changed after biometrics and I am afraid that they will call us for interview and my husband will not go.

 

Thank you.

Posted
13 minutes ago, PL1991 said:

My case status hasn't changed after biometrics and I am afraid that they will call us for interview and my husband will not go.

You can change to a waiver status at the time of the interview if he refuses to go.  You MUST attend.

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Posted
Just now, PL1991 said:

So I go to the interview without the divorce finalized and I tell them what happened and that I want to change it to a waiver status?

You could.......but your I-751 would get an RFE for the final divorce decree.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Posted

Also, during one of our fights, he called USCIS and asked to have his name removed from the petition so I do not know if that was actually noted in our case file. He was told that he can't do that unless we provide finalized divorce paperwork.

Posted

Ok well my husband said that he wants to sell the house first and then file for divorce. So there are a lot of variables for which I have no control over. Timing is an issue here I believe.

 

I really do not know what to do. I feel stuck

Posted
Just now, PL1991 said:

Also, during one of our fights, he called USCIS and asked to have his name removed from the petition so I do not know if that was actually noted in our case file. He was told that he can't do that unless we provide finalized divorce paperwork.

I think I would be prepared to show you entered the marriage in good faith.  

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Posted
1 minute ago, PL1991 said:

Ok well my husband said that he wants to sell the house first and then file for divorce. So there are a lot of variables for which I have no control over. Timing is an issue here I believe.

 

I really do not know what to do. I feel stuck

For the I-751, you are the petitioner.  You have the power to continue the process with a waiver if you choose.  Besides, it is a possibility that your interview is still many months away.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Posted
1 minute ago, PL1991 said:

Right definitely I will make sure that I have all the proof. If I get my 10 year green card, do you think there will be difficulty getting naturalized? Obviously that would happen 5 years from me becoming LPR instead of 3.

Many people naturalize after divorce. You are correct.  You would have to apply under the 5 year rule.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Posted

Hi.

 

You need a divorce lawyer immediately. An immigration lawyer should be second. The reason I say this is because from what you posted, everything your husband wants to do may not work in your favor.

 

There may a reason he wants to sell the house first before divorcing. It is a big deal, especially if it was purchased after you two were married.

 

You NEED a good divorce lawyer now to protect yourself.

“When starting an immigration journey, the best advice is to understand that sacrifices have to be made... whether it is time, money, or separation; or a combination of all.” - Unlockable

Posted (edited)

Divorce is not a reason for I-751 denial - all petitions are adjudicated on the evidence provided. 

 

Protect yourself - get a good divorce lawyer, and get that dealt with so you don't get screwed over. His plan of selling the house pre-divorce sounds a little suspicious...

Get copies of all joint paperwork, documents you can think of that show a joint life together NOW, so they don't mysteriously vanish (speaking from experience here). He clearly has a plan, so don't let it be dictated to you - assert and protect yourself, financially, physically, and emotionally. This is probably only going to go one way and get messier from here.

 

USCIS stuff will happen when it happens - you can't really do anything at the moment, and the long 18 month/2 year processing times right now work in your favour here...

You have an active joint petition (unless he tries again to remove himself- if he does post back and can deal with that if and when it happens). If you request a switch to a waiver filing right now, you will get RFE'd to provide a copy of the final decree within 90 days, which you won't be able to do, so you would receive a denial letter and then have a ballache of refiling/possible NTA/court appearances.

If you wait... and request a switch to a divorce waiver when nearly or actually divorced, you can switch far more easily without the added complications. 

 

42 minutes ago, PL1991 said:

Also, during one of our fights, he called USCIS and asked to have his name removed from the petition so I do not know if that was actually noted in our case file. He was told that he can't do that unless we provide finalized divorce paperwork.

 

Not true. A USC can remove themselves from a jointly filed I-751 without having to be divorced (again, speaking from my personal experience). 

 

He says that he will help with papers but then phones USCIS and requests to be removed? What a snake..

Edited by mindthegap

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Poland
Timeline
Posted (edited)

This sucks

Edited by Walbrzyszanka221

9/4/2019 - Packet was sent
9/6/2019 - Packet was received by USCIS in Phoenix, Arizona
9/11/2019 - Personal Check was deposited/cashed by USCIS
9/11/2019 - Received text message with my LIN case #
9/14/2019 - Received Receipt and Extension
1/10/2020 (Day 126) - Received Biometrics Letter
1/23/2020 (Day 139) - Biometrics Completed

2/8/2020  - Separated from Husband

8/11/2020 - Divorce was Finalized

9/10/2020 - New Card is Being Produced

9/14/2020 - New Card was Mailed

9/15/2020 - Post Office Picked Up the Card

9/16/2020 - Card Delivered

8/21/2022 - N-400 Form was Submitted and Case is Being Actively Reviewed

10/21/2022 - Interview scheduled

12/1/2022 - Interview and approved

12/1/2022 - Oath Ceremony Will Be Scheduled (30-45 days)

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Poland
Timeline
Posted (edited)

I would get a lawyers definitely.

Edited by Walbrzyszanka221

9/4/2019 - Packet was sent
9/6/2019 - Packet was received by USCIS in Phoenix, Arizona
9/11/2019 - Personal Check was deposited/cashed by USCIS
9/11/2019 - Received text message with my LIN case #
9/14/2019 - Received Receipt and Extension
1/10/2020 (Day 126) - Received Biometrics Letter
1/23/2020 (Day 139) - Biometrics Completed

2/8/2020  - Separated from Husband

8/11/2020 - Divorce was Finalized

9/10/2020 - New Card is Being Produced

9/14/2020 - New Card was Mailed

9/15/2020 - Post Office Picked Up the Card

9/16/2020 - Card Delivered

8/21/2022 - N-400 Form was Submitted and Case is Being Actively Reviewed

10/21/2022 - Interview scheduled

12/1/2022 - Interview and approved

12/1/2022 - Oath Ceremony Will Be Scheduled (30-45 days)

 
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