If You Think It’s Bad for Mainstream Democrats Now, Just Wait

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It is always darkest, John McCain used to say, before it gets totally black. So it is for the American center-left right now. Bernie Sanders is currently favored to win the nomination, a prospect that would make Donald Trump a heavy favorite to win reelection, and open the possibility of a Corbyn-esque wipeout. While Sanders has not expanded beyond a minority of the party, he has consolidated support of the party’s left wing, and while its mainstream liberal wing is split between numerous contenders, it is hard to see how the situation is likely to improve soon. Indeed, it could get worse, much worse.

The liberal conundrum begins with Joe Biden. The former vice-president led national polls until very recently, and has been the most plausible mainstream liberal candidate. At the same time, doubts about his ability to handle the rigors of the campaign at an advanced age have caused the Democratic Party to withhold the institutional support it gave Hillary Clinton. Yet his name was big enough to preclude a younger, more vigorous Democrat from emerging in the ideological space he occupied. Beto O’Rourke, Cory Booker, and Kamala Harris all tried and failed to run as ideological heirs of Barack Obama, because Obama’s actual partner was still there.

Yet Biden underperformed in Iowa, and his campaign appears to be deflating, at least momentarily. So what to do?

 

 

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/02/democratic-primary-biden-bernie-sanders-buttigieg-klobuchar-bloomberg-liberal.html

[Dashinka 24,862]

Worst case scenario for the Democrats, Bernie loses the nomination and then decides to run as an Independent.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,386]

Just now, Bill & Katya said:

Worst case scenario for the Democrats, Bernie loses the nomination and then decides to run as an Independent.

If they would just put forth workable solutions and moving forward. All I hear is attacking Trump

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6 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Worst case scenario for the Democrats, Bernie loses the nomination and then decides to run as an Independent.

That is a very possible, if not likely, scenario.  You know the Powers That Be are working on a plan for a brokered convention which will hand the nomination to Hillary, Bloomberg, or Biden (not necessarily in that order)......When that happens, Bernie will throw a fit..... 

[Dashinka 24,862]

38 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

If they would just put forth workable solutions and moving forward. All I hear is attacking Trump

No doubt, we all know they hate Trump, but not seeing much substance in their plans.  Of course Bernie has a break the bank plan, and Elizabeth Warren is close behind in her plan.  Mayor Pete seems centrist, but his record says otherwise, and he has the disadvantage of not exciting the minorities that may vote Dem.  Biden and Klobuchar are the most centrist of the “viable” candidates, but unless one of them wins one of the upcoming contests, that viability will diminish.

 

34 minutes ago, missileman said:

That is a very possible, if not likely, scenario.  You know the Powers That Be are working on a plan for a brokered convention which will hand the nomination to Hillary, Bloomberg, or Biden (not necessarily in that order)......When that happens, Bernie will throw a fit..... 

A brokered convention is very likely bringing in the super delegates on a 2nd vote.  If they were to get there, I think it would look as embarrassing as Iowa for the Dems.

Edited February 7, 2020 by Bill & Katya

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7 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

A brokered convention is very likely bringing in the super delegates on a 2nd vote.  If they were to get there, I think it would look as embarrassing as Iowa for the Dems.

Yes, it would......but desperate times call for desperate measures.......Bernie and Warren are not electable, imo.

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4 minutes ago, missileman said:

Yes, it would......but desperate times call for desperate measures.......Bernie and Warren are not electable, imo.

I am not sure any of the current crop of candidates are electable.

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I have seen comments in the progressive media that the concentration should be on the Senate.

[Crazy Cat 42,535]

1 hour ago, Boiler said:

I have seen comments in the progressive media that the concentration should be on the Senate.

Pretty lofty goal.......but a  more realistic alternative to beating Trump...imo.

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I'm making a bold prediction right now...The first woman to elected POTUS will be..........Ivanka Trump.....

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1 hour ago, missileman said:

I'm making a bold prediction right now...The first woman to elected POTUS will be..........Ivanka Trump.....

I'd pick Nikki Haley.

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1 minute ago, Neonred said:

I'd pick Nikki Haley.

She will be VP.....😀

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1 minute ago, missileman said:

She will be VP.....😀

Ivanka is a great speaker and would be a fine pick also, but she will have the Trump name to contend with and that might be a problem for some independants and very difficult to get any crossover support.