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Hi All,


This community is incredibly helpful. We have a number of questions that we'd love to get people's thoughts on. Quick backround: 

 

+ We are an engaged couple that is planning on moving to the U.S. in september because one of us (the U.S. citizen) is starting grad school. 

 

+ My fiancée is an Argentine citizen. She currently has a long-term tourist visa

 

We've decided to go with the K-1 process. We know it's not an ideal from a work perspective for my fiancée, but we understand it gives us the best shot at being together in the U.S. as soon as possible (our primary goal).

 

Here go the questions.

 

1) We understand that even though we have both been living outside the U.S. for the last 3.5 years, we can go through the K-1 process. I understand that I need to be "domiciled" in the U.S. Currently in the U.S. I have:

- A bank account (registered to my parents' address)

- An investment account (registered to my parents' address)

- Credit cards I use regularly (registered to my parents' address)

- Have paid taxes the last 3 years

- I have voted in the U.S. in the 2016 election and will do so again for 2020

 

Do I qualify as being "domiciled" in the U.S.? At what point do we have to send proof of being "domiciled" (when sending the I-129F or later on?) Anything else I need to be aware of since I'm applying from abroad?

 

2) For the application, do we have to translate proof documents such as bank statements, bills or plane tickets in Spanish? If so, do they have to be done by an "official" translator?

 

3) If the K1 is not approved by September, can my fiancée go to US with tourist visa to visit me at least periodically? Or would that be a problem?

 

4) Once we get the K1, get married and start the EAD process, could my fiancée still work remote for her Argentine employer being paid in Argentina? This while waiting for the EAD process. 

 

Thanks so much. This community is everything!

 

Posted

1.  That may or may not fit the consulate's definition of domicile.  All but one those things you listed can easily be done by someone living anywhere in the world.  

2.  All documents sent to USCIS must be translated.  Anyone fluent in both languages can certify the translation by attaching the approved USCIS translation statement.

3.  Visiting during the process is allowed....providing she can show evidence of strong ties to her country and intent to return after the short visit.  Permission to enter is determined at the time of entry and is at the discretion of CBP. 

4.  Working without valid authorization (EAD) is illegal. That is only one benefit of a CR-1 over a K-1.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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10 minutes ago, L&C ARG said:

 

 

3) If the K1 is not approved by September, can my fiancée go to US with tourist visa to visit me at least periodically? Or would that be a problem?

 

4) Once we get the K1, get married and start the EAD process, could my fiancée still work remote for her Argentine employer being paid in Argentina? This while waiting for the EAD process. 

3. Yes she can visit on the tourist visa. It's up to CBP to parole people in though.

 

4. No. She cannot work.

 

10 minutes ago, L&C ARG said:

Thanks so much. This community is everything!

 

Hopefully someone can help you out on 1 and 2.

 

Good luck.

AOS

Filled : 2007-09-17

NOA : 2007-09-25

Biometrics : 2007-12-13

EAD card prod : 2007-12-13

Job Offer : 2007-12-18

EAD card prod : 2007-12-18

EAD approved mailed : 2007-12-21

EAD in Hand : 2007-12-24 (Awesome Christmas Present)

Applied for SSN : 2007-12-26

SSN arrives in mail : 2008-01-05 (Happy New Year)

Start work :2008-01-15

Posted (edited)

If you haven’t started yet, I’d recommend a good long think about whether the K-1 really is right for you. I see nothing in what you have posted that suggests the K-1 is a good choice. In fact, your point number 4 is completely at odds with a K-1. 
 

You say you want to be together as quickly as possible. Every single one of us gets that and wishes that for ourselves too. We don’t love our spouses or fiancés any less than you do so we completely understand that. 
 

However, that’s a classic case of thinking with your heart not your head. To be together a few months quicker (and what’s a few months when you have decades ahead of you?) you are considering depriving your fiancé of an income and career progression for many months. Depending on the industry she’s in, for every month out of action it can take multiple months to get back to the original stage. She will be able to do nothing except volunteer for a charity for months and months. Depending on the state you are moving to she may not be able to drive for months. In many parts of the USA beyond the big cities that can leave you almost housebound. If a family member becomes ill or dies she would not be able to leave the country to go home and return. She can leave, it’s coming back that’s the issue. 
 

Immigration is a hugely emotional and overwhelming journey. The only thing that saved my sanity (apart from the love and support of my husband) in those early weeks was going to work and doing the job I love and that I spent years and years studying for. I didn’t spend 7 years in university doing 2 degrees to sit at home. Also earning money and not being worried about finances was a relief too. 
 

Marriage and immigration are long-term decisions and require long-term plans, despite our hormones. 

Edited by JFH

Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

Posted (edited)

@JFH is correct........

 

This is my analysis:

 

Every couple has their own priorities, and each couple must decide which visa is better for their situation.

K-1
    Slightly faster arrival in the US 
    More expensive than CR-1    
    Requires Adjustment of Status after marriage (expensive and requires a lot of paperwork)    
    Spouse can not leave the US until she/he receives approved Advance Parole (approx 5-6 months)    
    Spouse can not work until she/he receives EAD (approx 5-6 months)    
    Some people have had problems with driver licenses, Social Security cards, leases, bank account during this period    
    Spouse will not receive Green Card for many months after Adjustment of Status is filed.

  

CR-1
    Slightly slower arrival in the US 

    Less expensive than K-1    
    No Adjustment of Status(I-485, I-131, I-765) required.    
    Spouse can immediately travel outside the US    
    Spouse is authorized to work immediately upon arrival.    
    Spouse receives Social Security Card and Green Card within 2 or 3 weeks after entering the US    
    Opening a bank account, getting a driver's license, etc. are very easily accomplished with GC, SS card, and passport.

    Spouse has legal permanent Resident status IMMEDIATELY upon entry to US.
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Edited by missileman

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Posted

Thanks all. Super helpful.

 

I understand where the CR1 promoters are coming from. Big question for you all: are visits on a tourist visa allowed during the CR1 process?

 

Also, what worries me most right now is the "domiciled" part. Any more advice on that would be super helpful.


Thank you!

Posted
Just now, L&C ARG said:

 

I understand where the CR1 promoters are coming from. Big question for you all: are visits on a tourist visa allowed during the CR1 process?

 

Also, what worries me most right now is the "domiciled" part. Any more advice on that would be super helpful.


Thank you!

Yes, as long as the visitor can show evidence of strong ties to home country and convince the CBP that he/she will return after the short visit.  Every entry of a non-US Citizen is at the discretion of CBP.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Posted
12 minutes ago, L&C ARG said:

Thanks all. Super helpful.

 

I understand where the CR1 promoters are coming from. Big question for you all: are visits on a tourist visa allowed during the CR1 process?

 

Also, what worries me most right now is the "domiciled" part. Any more advice on that would be super helpful.


Thank you!

Visits are certainly permitted during the process. I visited several times. Granted, I am from a VWP country so had an easier ride through CBP than others but it’s possible for all. 

Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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I went through the birth abroad for my son to be granted US citizenship, I showed the same things you wanted, however the embassy in Bogota sent me an email asking for my school transcripts, DD-214 (military discharge papers), and a copy of the lease for my apartment. Probably the same standards as evidence for the K1, my paperwork is in the system with USCIS for my fiancé and I, at least our son is finally a dual citizen. 

 
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