Supreme Court allows Trump administration to move forward with 'public charge' rule (merged)

[geowrian 22,337]

52 minutes ago, PatoooskiCL said:

The I-944 asks for your household members but my question is if you're doing this with a co-sponsor, which household do you include? The petitioner's or the co-sponsor's?

Your own (the alien's) household.

[PatoooskiCL 7]

59 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Your own (the alien's) household.

One more question. On the "Family Status (Your Household)" part you're asked to list all your family members in the household including yourself and there's a Yes or No question that's a bit confusing to me. It says: "Is this individual filing an application for an immigration benefit with you or has this individual already filed an application?" My question is, do I tick Yes for myself and No for the rest of my household, including my fiancée?

 

I assume by "immigration benefit" it means an AOS/EAD/AP application or am I wrong?

 

Thank you so much.

[AnnaLee24 16]

7 hours ago, geowrian said:

Here's how the FAM words it at least:

And here's that section of the SSA: https://www.ssa.gov/OP_Home/ssact/title19/1903.htm

My understanding of the above (I could be wrong!) is that it is federally funded but also permissible under the SSA. Which then goes back to the FAM from above, in which case it is not considered a public benefit with regards to the public charge ineligibility.

I think we are kinda on the same page. I agree pregnancy and Medicaid is not going to be considered as a public charge. 
 

What I am saying is since this little blurb is in the I-944 (pic below) then all the information the SSA and other government agencies has is fair game and bypasses data exchange laws.

 

info like BEER 

https://www.ssa.gov/dataexchange/documents/BEER%20record.pdf

 

to make life easier on themselves, USCIS requires the applicant to tell them if the benefits they received were while in a “vulnerable class” like pregnancy.
 

I could’ve way off base 

[midwinterrose 275]

If an intending immigrant is required to obtain healthcare, and they do so through the Healthcare Marketplace, and they qualify for a Premium Tax Credit through the Affordable Care Act, don’t they essentially become a public charge?  The federal government picks up part of the bill for the healthcare plan if they qualify for the tax credit.  My husband, for example would qualify for a $349 credit—the government would be paying $4188 annually for his healthcare.

 

This is true even for healthcare obtained through his employer, as employers then claim tax write-offs that cost the government $250 billion in tax revenue annually.

 

The Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) costs more per person than Medicaid.

 

 Thoughts?

 

 

 

[Cndn 98]

19 minutes ago, radharose said:

If an intending immigrant is required to obtain healthcare, and they do so through the Healthcare Marketplace, and they qualify for a Premium Tax Credit through the Affordable Care Act, don’t they essentially become a public charge?  The federal government picks up part of the bill for the healthcare plan if they qualify for the tax credit.  My husband, for example would qualify for a $349 credit—the government would be paying $4188 annually for his healthcare.

 

This is true even for healthcare obtained through his employer, as employers then claim tax write-offs that cost the government $250 billion in tax revenue annually.

 

The Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) costs more per person than Medicaid.

 

 Thoughts?

 

 

 

Going forward, best plan of action for applicants is to have private health insurance without the use of any tax subsidies. You can purchase through marketplace and just skip the part asking about your income. 

[AnnaLee24 16]

22 hours ago, HDia said:

On 3/5/2020 at 4:08 PM, AnnaLee24 said:

 

I tried the worksheet, looks like our positive will outweigh negative!

That is the most visual explanation of the public charge rule. After looking at the table I don’t think the public charge rule is as bad as originally thought. I think it will be the hardest on people that have had family members immigrate in the past and have different expectations.

[Milasa 19]

I will recommend filling out ds-5540 for your dad to have it ready in case they ask and show some proof of his retirement income such as pension, etc, any real estate he owns, and show information about health coverage you are planning on getting for him (they specifically mentioned not a market place coverage). I’m still looking for health coverage options for my mom.

[zafi 13]

so you need to get private health insurance is that right?

[sl1pstream 551]

On 3/7/2020 at 1:47 AM, Cndn said:

Going forward, best plan of action for applicants is to have private health insurance without the use of any tax subsidies. You can purchase through marketplace and just skip the part asking about your income. 

Wait, so even your partner's employer-based healthcare is out?

[Cndn 98]

5 hours ago, sl1pstream said:

Wait, so even your partner's employer-based healthcare is out?

No, not at all! I’m talking about tax credits for health care when a health plan is purchased by the individual through the exchange. 

[geowrian 22,337]

Employer-based is fine. Private is fine. The healthcare exchange is fine....you just probably can't use premium tax credits on it (subsidized).

[Milasa 19]

4 hours ago, geowrian said:

Employer-based is fine. Private is fine. The healthcare exchange is fine....you just probably can't use premium tax credits on it (subsidized).

There are also short term insurance policies available 6 month to 12 months of coverage. I think they should qualify as well and later a long-term insurance plan can be obtained.

[Boiler 45,487]

The vast majority of plans are annual.