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People tend to become more trusting of news stories after being exposed to President Donald Trump’s tweets attacking so-called “fake news,” according to new research published in Mass Communication and Society. The findings provide evidence that Trump’s tweets are having the opposite of their intended effect.

“There had been a great deal of popular concern, both from the public and journalism outlets, about Trump’s disparagement of news media via Twitter and labeling legitimate news organizations as ‘fake news.’ We thought to design a quick study to empirically validate those concerns and show just how damaging the tweets were to people’s perceptions of journalistic credibility and trust,” remarked study author Daniel J. Tamul, an assistant professor of communication at Virginia Tech.

The researchers conducted an initial pilot study with 331 people, in which some participants were randomly assigned to read a tweet from Trump saying the “very dishonest Fake News Media is out of control” before reading an Associated Press news story about immigration.

 

https://www.psypost.org/2020/01/new-study-suggests-donald-trumps-fake-news-attacks-are-backfiring-55335

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The demographic relying on NPR for "news" trust NPR more than Trump's tweets. Huge shock.

 

If one wants to know what drove a pointless "study":

 

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As a populist appeal strategy, tweets about “fake news” may be intended to fundamentally alter how audiences process news narratives in an effort to inoculate audiences against attitude change.

 

And attitude change is precisely the goal of fake news. Science and information itself is nothing more than a narrative to push.

 

In their disappointment with the 2016 results in their own analysis, they made sure for the latter not to point out in the real world how effective Trump's fake news tweets are and how much they resonate with a populace that does distrust the media, nor address the media's credibility itself by virtue of Trump's election and steadfast support.

 

https://liberalarts.vt.edu/departments-and-schools/department-of-communication/faculty/dan-tamul.html

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Dr. Tamul’s research focuses on the formal affordances of journalistic storytelling and how news narratives can function as agents of social change as examined through a narrative persuasion framework

 

https://www.niemanlab.org/2020/01/rated-false-heres-the-most-interesting-new-research-on-fake-news-and-fact-checking

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The authors of that paper recommend journalists “engage in a sort of news jujitsu, turning the negative energy of Trump’s tweets into a force for creating additional interest in news.”

 

All aboard the gaslight express. :pop:

 

(tl;dr-> It's not backfiring)

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3 hours ago, 90DayFinancier said:

legitimate news organizations as ‘fake news.’

Need to look, but The Media have something like a 10% favorable rating in one or more recent polls.

33 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

gaslight [...] can you give it a rest? 

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33 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

I will assist with a helpful distraction (ahem, harrumph):

"Bee-to, Bee-to [dumb bum dumb bum]"

"Bee-to, Bee-to [done, done, done]"

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8 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   Burnt, we had 9 uses of the term gaslight in the history of VJ before you joined, and 281 since then. I understand that you learned a new word recently, but can you give it a rest? 

I understand the left claim ownership of this term (one they didn't adopt until recently) and thus demonstrate hostility when this term is used against them or to describe the media/politician/government/other usage of gaslighting, but I'm not going to stop using it when applicable. If you don't like it, there's a block function.

 

Short answer: no.

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8 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Need to look, but The Media have something like a 10% favorable rating in one or more recent polls.

I will assist with a helpful distraction (ahem, harrumph):

"Bee-to, Bee-to [dumb bum dumb bum]"

 

   Once in a while is cute. As long as you can appreciate that if you started following me and posting that for no apparent reason every time I made a post, I would have to refer you to the relevant sections of the TOS. Which is what the gas lighting thing appears to have evolved into. Every time I see 90DF post an article, the follow up is invariably something about gas lighting posted by Burnt. 

 

 

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33 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   Once in a while is cute. As long as you can appreciate that if you started following me and posting that for no apparent reason every time I made a post, I would have to refer you to the relevant sections of the TOS. Which is what the gas lighting thing appears to have evolved into. Every time I see 90DF post an article, the follow up is invariably something about gas lighting posted by Burnt. 

 

 

Ahh, trying to dictate discussion with the use of outrage.

 

Your problem however is I directly attacked the substance of the argument, citing the study itself (which I read, along with its methodology), going to the heart of why this "study" was done by its creators, went into the background of the creators and the "narrative driving for social change" they're committed to, and the fact that they are committed to forming narratives against Trump to make people think A when in reality its B. So yeah, gaslighting. You could literally say gaslighting is the expertise of these people.

 

I do commend you however on the persistence of throwing fits and trying to shut down conversation when its not going your way.

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Now, now... point made.  Perhaps a substitute term can be substituted as a substitute term.

23 hours ago, Neonred said:

"Bee-to, Bee-to [done, done, done]"

Not so fast... he's going to be Biden's Hispanic VP nominee!

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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20 hours ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Ahh, trying to dictate discussion with the use of outrage.

Some in this forum wallow in those methods

 

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Your problem however is I directly attacked the substance of the argument,

 

I never saw you  prove the study was flawed or could not be reproduced. Can you do that?

 

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citing the study itself (which I read, along with its methodology),

You posted your "rebuttal" 30 minutes after the article went up.

I am not sure how you were able to gather a valid argument so quickly, evidence suggests you weren't able to.

Example:

  You said (sarcastically) that the 

"demographic relying on NPR for "news" trust NPR more than Trump's tweets. Huge shock"

 

But the article doesn't talk about the demographic of those "relying on NPR" it talks about using NPR fact sheets as the news article that was read before the Trump tweet. 

 

Can you share your copy of the study with me? It is behind a paywall and maybe if I looked at I  could help you understand it better.

 

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going to the heart of why this "study" was done by its creators,

 

 

So , you didn't address the study, just the potential motives and biases of the authors. 

 

 

 

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went into the background of the creators and the "narrative driving for social change" they're committed to, and the fact that they are committed to forming narratives against Trump to make people think

 

 

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A when in reality its B.

You never established it was B, so it's still A.

 

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So yeah, gaslighting. You could literally say gaslighting is the expertise of these people.

You don't understand the proper application if that term. You also don't demonstrate compassion for those who have been victims of gaslighting on a personal level. It is a serious form of abuse in relationships.

 

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I do commend you however on the persistence of throwing fits and trying to shut down conversation when its not going your way.

Smh

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23 hours ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

 

I do commend you however on the persistence of throwing fits and trying to shut down conversation when its not going your way.

 

   Actually I have you on ignore. No fits. No need to shut anything down. I don't even see your posts unless I go out of my way to do so.

 

   It's just an observation.  Your use of gas lighting is similar to when a toddler learns a new word, like "banana", and then goes on repeating the word over and over for days without regard to the situation. Banana this, banana that. As I said, cute for a little while, but after a while you have to wonder where the adults are.

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19 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   Actually I have you on ignore. No fits. No need to shut anything down. I don't even see your posts unless I go out of my way to do so.

 

   It's just an observation.  Your use of gas lighting is similar to when a toddler learns a new word, like "banana", and then goes on repeating the word over and over for days without regard to the situation. Banana this, banana that. As I said, cute for a little while, but after a while you have to wonder where the adults are.

I have you on ignore also. I cant see a thing in the post above in which you are talking about gaslighting and bananas. I been reading about gaslighting. we use to call arguing back and forth

 

Gasdoxing- reveling information about someone in order to manipulate them into a point of view

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2 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I have you on ignore also. I cant see a thing in the post above in which you are talking about gaslighting and bananas. I been reading about gaslighting. we use to call arguing back and forth

 

Gasdoxing- reveling information about someone in order to manipulate them into a point of view

There is a great book on gaslighting that my therapist back in Berkeley had me read -- it's by the psychologist who invented the term. It's a fantastic read and has helped me in recognizing the patterns of repeated abuse in my life. The Gaslight Effect. 

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4 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I have you on ignore also. I cant see a thing in the post above in which you are talking about gaslighting and bananas. I been reading about gaslighting. we use to call arguing back and forth

 

Gasdoxing- reveling information about someone in order to manipulate them into a point of view

So if everyone has everyone on ignore....

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1 minute ago, laylalex said:

There is a great book on gaslighting that my therapist back in Berkeley had me read -- it's by the psychologist who invented the term. It's a fantastic read and has helped me in recognizing the patterns of repeated abuse in my life. The Gaslight Effect. 

The only psychoanalysis I feel is needed is... only I can allow it to happen to me.  It's a choice.

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