Reasons people can be in Administrative Processing after Visa Approval in Pakistan?

[Lexushim 105]

I want to know a few reasons/possibilities someone case can go in AP? What do you think they look at usually for consulate review to put you in AP after visa approval especially males from Pakistan?

[Boiler 45,468]

Every case goes into AP.

[Just Paul 4,595]

Have you ever wondered why Pakistani citizens have visa-free or visa on arrival access to only 31 countries and territories? (Only Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan have “worse” passports on the Henley Passport Ranking - https://www.henleypassportindex.com/assets/2020/Q1/HENLEY PASSPORT INDEX 2020 Q1 INFOGRAPHIC GLOBAL RANKING_191219.pdf ) All while Pakistan is the 5th most populous country. Or wonder why consulates do not accept Pakistani Police Certificates?  Ever wonder why the US Non-immigrant Visa Fees are so high?

 

I was relayed this story from very good friend I know and trust that I have worked many NGO projects with:

 

The issue in Pakistan is that decades ago Pakistan decided not to modernize it's internal record keeping nor institute security controls on it's documents.  Unfortunately this has led to the inability for Pakistan and any other country to rely on the authenticity of many documents issued from Pakistan. Need a birth certificate or old passport from Pakistan?   He visited a friend's house in Virginia. The friend is a retired State Department Foreign Service Officer. He has a wall with 20 or more birth certificates issued in his daughters name with various birth dates. Some of them are quite beautiful.  They are all “certified” as true and correct. None of them are. His daughter wasn't even born there. In fact he only had a son. . . 

 

So every document has to be checked for its veracity in many cases by hand and in person.

 

It is not just an issue for the US but atleast the US will do the heavy lifting once a VISA interview has occurred. Other countries refuse outright.  That same retired FSO that actual cost to process a Pakistani visa is probably now 20 to 30 times higher than what is charged to the applicant.  That isn't really fair for all of the US Visa Applicants Worldwide who pay for the self funded Visa services of the US Consulates.

[Syed_Asghar_Raza 20]

On 1/22/2020 at 8:10 AM, Paul & Mary said:

Have you ever wondered why Pakistani citizens have visa-free or visa on arrival access to only 31 countries and territories? (Only Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan have “worse” passports on the Henley Passport Ranking - https://www.henleypassportindex.com/assets/2020/Q1/HENLEY PASSPORT INDEX 2020 Q1 INFOGRAPHIC GLOBAL RANKING_191219.pdf ) All while Pakistan is the 5th most populous country. Or wonder why consulates do not accept Pakistani Police Certificates?  Ever wonder why the US Non-immigrant Visa Fees are so high?

 

I was relayed this story from very good friend I know and trust that I have worked many NGO projects with:

 

The issue in Pakistan is that decades ago Pakistan decided not to modernize it's internal record keeping nor institute security controls on it's documents.  Unfortunately this has led to the inability for Pakistan and any other country to rely on the authenticity of many documents issued from Pakistan. Need a birth certificate or old passport from Pakistan?   He visited a friend's house in Virginia. The friend is a retired State Department Foreign Service Officer. He has a wall with 20 or more birth certificates issued in his daughters name with various birth dates. Some of them are quite beautiful.  They are all “certified” as true and correct. None of them are. His daughter wasn't even born there. In fact he only had a son. . . 

 

So every document has to be checked for its veracity in many cases by hand and in person.

 

It is not just an issue for the US but atleast the US will do the heavy lifting once a VISA interview has occurred. Other countries refuse outright.  That same retired FSO that actual cost to process a Pakistani visa is probably now 20 to 30 times higher than what is charged to the applicant.  That isn't really fair for all of the US Visa Applicants Worldwide who pay for the self funded Visa services of the US Consulates.

With due respect, this is a forum to help and encourage people when they are going through the visa process. I think in every forum we have a sticky topic of not being rude to people who are new or ask noob questions.

What you have done here is generalized the whole nation based on one story that you have heard from some one.

A person with a brain and some common sense would have asked that guy who told the story, so if the person did not have a daughter and by putting the birth certificates on the wall, was he showing the world that he was a fraud? He was inviting random people at home and showing them that he is a thug? what is the benefit he was getting out of this.

 

Are you sure that there has never been a fraud case in Japan and Singapore that have the strongest passport. None of their nationals have everrr forged any papers or tried to cheat US immigration process???  

 

Now as per TOS of VJ you cannot share rumors or false news. You have said these words "Pakistan decided not to modernize it's internal record keeping" if Pakistan decided this as a government policy can you share any news cutting or official announcement??

As a fact now you even cannot get a Cellular Sim card without verifying the thumb impression. Date on Birth Certifcate can only be changed only at one place that is in Capital city and general public is not allowed to visit there. TO get the date changed you need a court decision now that needs to be presented. 

 

You have also claimed about the cost of verification as per TOS of VJ can you please share the details of what embassy verifies and the cost associated to it as well. If not of every verification can you give a total amount of cost of verification. Or else edit your post and exclude it.

What was being done in Pakistan previously is now changing, either keep yourself updated or dont make generalized comments. Also whatever was happening before, we in Pakistan are actually paying a cost of that in terms of long wait times to get visa, the pain and emotional suffering we go through is a lot more than the cost if any is related with verification and we still go through this process. 10% might complain about it but 90% go through this without complaining.

So please dont tell us that it is unfair to other countries that they pay the same fee as we do but there is high cost of verification (about which you have no information about).

 

So my point is please try to help people here rather than blaming their whole nation.

Edited January 24, 2020 by Syed_Asghar_Raza

[Russ&MaryAnn 110]

2 hours ago, Syed_Asghar_Raza said:

With due respect, this is a forum to help and encourage people when they are going through the visa process

I believe the purpose of this forum is to inform people about the processes. True information isn’t always encouraging.

[Syed_Asghar_Raza 20]

2 minutes ago, Russ&MaryAnn said:

I believe the purpose of this forum is to inform people about the processes. True information isn’t always encouraging.

The problem is there is no information. Some points to ponder and some baseless assumptions. Please quote one line from above post that is information.

 

I would consider "everyone has to go through AP" as information if you can find one.

 

Edited January 24, 2020 by Syed_Asghar_Raza