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Anyone out there filed for their spouses countries PR Visa at the same time as your spouse applying for the CR1?

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Hi Guys, 

So my partner and I are trying to decide on whats the best visa for us to go for. We are definately thinking the CR1 over the K1 but not liking the time apart. Were currently living in NZ and my visa expires in November. We will get Married this year but not until later on in the year as we want our families to be here for it. So if we apply for the CR1 at the end of the year it will be quite some time we will be spending apart. Then we thought is it possible (my partner is from Aus) if i applied for the partner visa there, that way i can go and live with her, whilst the CR1 is being processed. Has anybody done this or know if this is even possible to both apply for visas in eachothers countries at the same time? 

Thanks in Advance

 

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5 hours ago, wander2gether said:

Hi Guys, 

So my partner and I are trying to decide on whats the best visa for us to go for. We are definately thinking the CR1 over the K1 but not liking the time apart. Were currently living in NZ and my visa expires in November. We will get Married this year but not until later on in the year as we want our families to be here for it. So if we apply for the CR1 at the end of the year it will be quite some time we will be spending apart. Then we thought is it possible (my partner is from Aus) if i applied for the partner visa there, that way i can go and live with her, whilst the CR1 is being processed. Has anybody done this or know if this is even possible to both apply for visas in eachothers countries at the same time? 

Thanks in Advance

 

Sure you can get a Visa to live with your spouse.   That in and of itself doesn't matter to USCIS.   What matters to the Department of State is that  you meet the domicile requirement of having a spousal visa issued.

 

In our case we had a few choices.   I was able to get / had a 1 year visa to live in the Philippines with Mary basically for free.   I have permanent residency on Mexico which could be extended to her.  Ultimately we decided that her taking the Mexico permanent residency made the most sense since I had a project there and more work in Central America  vs Southeast Asia.   So now she has two greencards.  The US doesn't care that she has a Mexican Green Card since she spends almost all her time in the US.

 

 

March 2, 2018  Married In Hong Kong

April 30, 2018  Mary moves from the Philippines to Mexico, Husband has MX Permanent Residency

June 13, 2018 Mary receives Mexican Residency Card

June 15, 2018  I-130 DCF Appointment in Juarez  -  June 18, 2018  Approval E-Mail

August 2, 2018 Case Complete At Consulate

September 25, 2018 Interview in CDJ and Approved!

October 7, 2018 In the USA

October 27, 2018 Green Card received 

October 29, 2018 Applied for Social Security Card - November 5, 2018 Social Security Card received

November 6th, 2018 State ID Card Received, Applied for Global Entry - Feb 8,2019 Approved.

July 14, 2020 Removal of Conditions submitted by mail  July 12, 2021 Biometrics Completed

August 6, 2021 N-400 submitted by mail

September 7, 2021 I-751 Interview, Sept 8 Approved and Card Being Produced

October 21, 2021 N-400 Biometrics Completed  

November 30,2021  Interview, Approval and Oath

December 10, 2021 US Passport Issued

August 12, 2022 PHL Dual Nationality Re-established & Passport Approved 

April 6,2023 Legally Separated - Oh well

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9 hours ago, wander2gether said:

Hi Guys, 

So my partner and I are trying to decide on whats the best visa for us to go for. We are definately thinking the CR1 over the K1 but not liking the time apart. Were currently living in NZ and my visa expires in November. We will get Married this year but not until later on in the year as we want our families to be here for it. So if we apply for the CR1 at the end of the year it will be quite some time we will be spending apart. Then we thought is it possible (my partner is from Aus) if i applied for the partner visa there, that way i can go and live with her, whilst the CR1 is being processed. Has anybody done this or know if this is even possible to both apply for visas in eachothers countries at the same time? 

Thanks in Advance

 

A) if your intention is to get married this year that means the K1 is out (can you get married sooner and then have a large wedding celebration later? You don't need to tell anyone you're already married.)

B) yes you can go live in the foreign spouse's country during processing

B1) biggest concern is sponsorship. Income unless continuing cant be used. Joint sponsor or assets can be used

B2) reestablishing domicle or intent thereof. 

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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Thanks guys,

We will have already been living in NZ for a year by the time we have applied so we would still be in the same posiion with the income. I have a house in the states and all my family is there so i am sure someone will help sponsor in need be. 

Also if we got secretly married, dont you need to supply evidence of a wedding and testamonys from friends and family? i dont think this is an option for us anyway.

 

What i am concerned about is if USCIS find out i am applying for a permanent resident visa in Australia will that affect my spouse's application? They might see it that we dont have intent to stay in the USA?

 

 

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35 minutes ago, wander2gether said:

Thanks guys,

We will have already been living in NZ for a year by the time we have applied so we would still be in the same posiion with the income. I have a house in the states and all my family is there so i am sure someone will help sponsor in need be. 

Also if we got secretly married, dont you need to supply evidence of a wedding and testamonys from friends and family? i dont think this is an option for us anyway.

 

What i am concerned about is if USCIS find out i am applying for a permanent resident visa in Australia will that affect my spouse's application? They might see it that we dont have intent to stay in the USA?

 

 

No, testimonies are actually the weakest form of evidence. Best bona fide relationship evidence, is things such as time spent together, shared bills, lease with both your names, etc. Living in Aus won’t affect your petition, plenty of people move to other countries while waiting for their spouse to receive a visa so that they don’t have to spend the whole time apart. What matters most is the issue of domicile/proving intent to domicile in the US and financial sponsorship around NVC stage. Also, CR1 is the best route to go if you want time to actually plan a wedding and make sure everyone is able to attend, imo, since you don’t have to worry about visa time constraints since you only petition after getting married. Though it will mean that it takes longer for you to be able to file, unless you decide to do a court marriage first, and wedding ceremony later. I already felt stressed enough planning our wedding and we had 5 months to plan it, since we decided to get married first and do CR1, and it was a fairly small wedding (less than 30 attendants). I can’t imagine only having less than 90 days to plan, I think my hair would have fallen out

Our CR1 Journey:

 

USCIS Stage:

  • Feb 14 2019: NOA1 (NSC)
  • July 31 2019: I129f NOA1
  • Sep 19 2019: I129f NOA2 (Denied - 50 days from NOA1)
  • Sep 19 2019: I130 NOA2 (Approved - 217 days from NOA1)

 

NVC Stage:

  • Sep 27 2019: Sent to Department of State
  • Oct 31 2019: Case number received (34 days since sent)
  • Nov 1 2019: IV & AOS fees received & paid
  • Nov 14 2019: IV & AOS submitted
  • Dec 18 2019: All docs accepted, but one additional doc requested (5 weeks from submission)
  • Dec 18 2019: Requested doc submitted
  • Feb 19 2020: Documentarily Qualified (9 weeks from 2nd submission, 14 weeks from first submission)

 

Interview Stage:

  • Mar 11 2020: Interview letter received
  • Apr 1 2020: Interview date
  • Mar 17 2020: Interview cancelled due to COVID-19
  • August 3 2020: Rescheduled letter received, new appointment August 25 2020
  • August 25 2020: Visa approved at interview! (558 days from NOA1)
  • September 10 2020: Embassy received passport in mail
  • September 15 2020: Passport with visa in hand

 

October 11 2020: Arrived in US!

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44 minutes ago, wander2gether said:

Thanks guys,

We will have already been living in NZ for a year by the time we have applied so we would still be in the same posiion with the income. I have a house in the states and all my family is there so i am sure someone will help sponsor in need be. 

Also if we got secretly married, dont you need to supply evidence of a wedding and testamonys from friends and family? i dont think this is an option for us anyway.

 

What i am concerned about is if USCIS find out i am applying for a permanent resident visa in Australia will that affect my spouse's application? They might see it that we dont have intent to stay in the USA?

 

 

When I saying continuing income, i mean continuing after moving to the USA.  

The US doesnt care if you are applying for residency elsewhere. 

As stated you dont need testimonials from friends or family and certainly not just because they attended a wedding. 

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You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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5 hours ago, wander2gether said:

What i am concerned about is if USCIS find out i am applying for a permanent resident visa in Australia will that affect my spouse's application?

Does not matter.  USCIS does not ask that about the petitioner.  They essentially care that you are qualified, as a US Citizen, to file the petition and that the two of you are legally married to each other.  Department of State will want to know your plans about domicile of you do not live in the US.   Spousal visas are issues so that the spouses can live together in the US.

March 2, 2018  Married In Hong Kong

April 30, 2018  Mary moves from the Philippines to Mexico, Husband has MX Permanent Residency

June 13, 2018 Mary receives Mexican Residency Card

June 15, 2018  I-130 DCF Appointment in Juarez  -  June 18, 2018  Approval E-Mail

August 2, 2018 Case Complete At Consulate

September 25, 2018 Interview in CDJ and Approved!

October 7, 2018 In the USA

October 27, 2018 Green Card received 

October 29, 2018 Applied for Social Security Card - November 5, 2018 Social Security Card received

November 6th, 2018 State ID Card Received, Applied for Global Entry - Feb 8,2019 Approved.

July 14, 2020 Removal of Conditions submitted by mail  July 12, 2021 Biometrics Completed

August 6, 2021 N-400 submitted by mail

September 7, 2021 I-751 Interview, Sept 8 Approved and Card Being Produced

October 21, 2021 N-400 Biometrics Completed  

November 30,2021  Interview, Approval and Oath

December 10, 2021 US Passport Issued

August 12, 2022 PHL Dual Nationality Re-established & Passport Approved 

April 6,2023 Legally Separated - Oh well

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44 minutes ago, wander2gether said:

Thanks everyone you have been a great help! 

I just have one more question. once you apply for the CR1 you cannot enter the USA until its granted is this correct?

No, lots of people visit the US on a tourist B visa or ESTA during the immigration visa process.  The foreign citizen just needs to show strong ties to their home country to convince the CBP officer that you will return to your home country after a short visit.  Entry to the US for non-citizens is always up to the CBP officer, some are turned away, some are admitted.  Always be 100% truthful at the POE to avoid problems down the road.

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