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Filed: Other Country: Colombia
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US citizen living in Colombia and preparing an i-130 for my wife. Has anyone used a US mail address on i-130 while living abroad?

 

I've read that using a US address on an i-130 form will likely delay the process because it will cause USCIS reviewers to believe my wife is illegally living in the US. But our international mail service is non-existent. We want to use a friend's address in the US. We've never been at the address or even the city. We've lived in Colombia for 8 years, 6 years in our present home. And preparing documents supporting our existing presence here.

 

We haven't received a single international letter in the last 6 years, until one fluke a few months ago. There is no hope. It's not just unreliable; it's certain we (and anyone else) will never get anything mailed from the US. Thanks

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Use the US address for you and the Colombian address on her I-130A.  USCIS will not send her anything.    I got a copy of our NOA2 by both mail and email.

March 2, 2018  Married In Hong Kong

April 30, 2018  Mary moves from the Philippines to Mexico, Husband has MX Permanent Residency

June 13, 2018 Mary receives Mexican Residency Card

June 15, 2018  I-130 DCF Appointment in Juarez  -  June 18, 2018  Approval E-Mail

August 2, 2018 Case Complete At Consulate

September 25, 2018 Interview in CDJ and Approved!

October 7, 2018 In the USA

October 27, 2018 Green Card received 

October 29, 2018 Applied for Social Security Card - November 5, 2018 Social Security Card received

November 6th, 2018 State ID Card Received, Applied for Global Entry - Feb 8,2019 Approved.

July 14, 2020 Removal of Conditions submitted by mail  July 12, 2021 Biometrics Completed

August 6, 2021 N-400 submitted by mail

September 7, 2021 I-751 Interview, Sept 8 Approved and Card Being Produced

October 21, 2021 N-400 Biometrics Completed  

November 30,2021  Interview, Approval and Oath

December 10, 2021 US Passport Issued

August 12, 2022 PHL Dual Nationality Re-established & Passport Approved 

April 6,2023 Legally Separated - Oh well

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A US mailing address is fine. I've never heard of that causing USCIS to accuse somebody of living illegally in the US.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

Filed: Other Country: Colombia
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Ok, that's an idea. Thanks. I'm trying to think this through.

 

We're living together in Barranquilla, CO. I use our friends US address in the i-130 beginning with his name in the "In Care Of" box on the first line of the address, and his address, and all responses are sent to that address? It does seem logical and upon further examination, the "In Care of" box is on the i-130, not the i130a.

 

Will USCIS mail anything to my wife at our address that's in the I-130a form? (if so, it will be lost or stolen). Or does all come to me - everything?  Even an eventual request for her to go to an embassy?

 

And will that be considered inconsistent with our physical address, which we are documenting by attaching addressed letters and utility bills to prove we live here together?

 

Thanks again for this quick response.   p.s. ? not sure what a NOA2 is

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Filed: Other Country: Philippines
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58 minutes ago, morlee said:

US citizen living in Colombia and preparing an i-130 for my wife. Has anyone used a US mail address on i-130 while living abroad?

 

I've read that using a US address on an i-130 form will likely delay the process because it will cause USCIS reviewers to believe my wife is illegally living in the US. But our international mail service is non-existent. We want to use a friend's address in the US. We've never been at the address or even the city. We've lived in Colombia for 8 years, 6 years in our present home. And preparing documents supporting our existing presence here.

 

We haven't received a single international letter in the last 6 years, until one fluke a few months ago. There is no hope. It's not just unreliable; it's certain we (and anyone else) will never get anything mailed from the US. Thanks

 

You are going to need a U.S. domicile address for later at the embassy so having a U.S. address on the I-130 only makes sense.  ;)  

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Filed: Other Country: Colombia
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35 minutes ago, Hank_ said:

 

You are going to need a U.S. domicile address for later at the embassy so having a U.S. address on the I-130 only makes sense.  ;)  

Ok thanks again, to all. Very helpful. Best I've found yet in this process.

 

I assume you refer to an interview at the Colombian embassy after USCIS?  I have actually used that US address in the "where you intend to live" question if you receive the green card.

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5 minutes ago, morlee said:

I assume you refer to an interview at the Colombian embassy after USCIS?

The petitioner will need to show either US domicile or the intent to re-establish domicile prior to or simultaneous to the beneficiary entering the US.   At the consulate, expect it to come up in the interview.

 

Mary was never sent anything by the consulate to our Mexico address.  Everything was sent to me by email and a copy to my US Address.

March 2, 2018  Married In Hong Kong

April 30, 2018  Mary moves from the Philippines to Mexico, Husband has MX Permanent Residency

June 13, 2018 Mary receives Mexican Residency Card

June 15, 2018  I-130 DCF Appointment in Juarez  -  June 18, 2018  Approval E-Mail

August 2, 2018 Case Complete At Consulate

September 25, 2018 Interview in CDJ and Approved!

October 7, 2018 In the USA

October 27, 2018 Green Card received 

October 29, 2018 Applied for Social Security Card - November 5, 2018 Social Security Card received

November 6th, 2018 State ID Card Received, Applied for Global Entry - Feb 8,2019 Approved.

July 14, 2020 Removal of Conditions submitted by mail  July 12, 2021 Biometrics Completed

August 6, 2021 N-400 submitted by mail

September 7, 2021 I-751 Interview, Sept 8 Approved and Card Being Produced

October 21, 2021 N-400 Biometrics Completed  

November 30,2021  Interview, Approval and Oath

December 10, 2021 US Passport Issued

August 12, 2022 PHL Dual Nationality Re-established & Passport Approved 

April 6,2023 Legally Separated - Oh well

Filed: Other Country: Colombia
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11 minutes ago, Paul & Mary said:

The petitioner will need to show either US domicile or the intent to re-establish domicile prior to or simultaneous to the beneficiary entering the US.   At the consulate, expect it to come up in the interview.

 

Mary was never sent anything by the consulate to our Mexico address.  Everything was sent to me by email and a copy to my US Address.

Again, every little clarification is so helpful. And it should be much easier to narrow down between options where to live at that time.

 

It may be too early for us to apply. We are going to move from Colombia to Buenos Aires, Argentina in June where my wife will begin a 1 year research sabbatical at a university there. She will retire 6 to 9 months after returning, about 24 to 27 months from now when we hope to move to the US.

 

I thought I would like to interview at the embassy and later receive the green card when we are in Buenos Aires where there is an embassy, rather than travel to Bogota if we wait to apply. But when I search how soon after receiving we must use the green card, I see some go to the US for only a shot time, register residency and return for periods of time. But this sort of stretches the system which expects people want to live in the US.  If others are receiving their green cards in 13 months more or less, maybe I should wait to apply until after we are in Argentina for 3 or 4 months. 

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36 minutes ago, morlee said:

It may be too early for us to apply.

Probably not.   You can file the petition and then slowly process at the NVC and then also delay at Consulate.  You have to keep in touch once a year to remain active.

 

58 minutes ago, morlee said:

I thought I would like to interview at the embassy and later receive the green card when we are in Buenos Aires where there is an embassy

You can not obtain a green card at a consulate.   You can only get it after entering the US.  You can travel and work right away because the endorsed Visa will act as a green card for a year.   You can interview anywhere where the beneficiary has legal residence.     People waiting for green cards are typically K1s or others that have to adjust from the US.   A spousal visa gets a green card upon entering the US.

March 2, 2018  Married In Hong Kong

April 30, 2018  Mary moves from the Philippines to Mexico, Husband has MX Permanent Residency

June 13, 2018 Mary receives Mexican Residency Card

June 15, 2018  I-130 DCF Appointment in Juarez  -  June 18, 2018  Approval E-Mail

August 2, 2018 Case Complete At Consulate

September 25, 2018 Interview in CDJ and Approved!

October 7, 2018 In the USA

October 27, 2018 Green Card received 

October 29, 2018 Applied for Social Security Card - November 5, 2018 Social Security Card received

November 6th, 2018 State ID Card Received, Applied for Global Entry - Feb 8,2019 Approved.

July 14, 2020 Removal of Conditions submitted by mail  July 12, 2021 Biometrics Completed

August 6, 2021 N-400 submitted by mail

September 7, 2021 I-751 Interview, Sept 8 Approved and Card Being Produced

October 21, 2021 N-400 Biometrics Completed  

November 30,2021  Interview, Approval and Oath

December 10, 2021 US Passport Issued

August 12, 2022 PHL Dual Nationality Re-established & Passport Approved 

April 6,2023 Legally Separated - Oh well

Filed: Other Country: Colombia
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20 minutes ago, Paul & Mary said:

Probably not.   You can file the petition and then slowly process at the NVC and then also delay at Consulate.  You have to keep in touch once a year to remain active.

 

You can not obtain a green card at a consulate.   You can only get it after entering the US.  You can travel and work right away because the endorsed Visa will act as a green card for a year.   You can interview anywhere where the beneficiary has legal residence.     People waiting for green cards are typically K1s or others that have to adjust from the US.   A spousal visa gets a green card upon entering the US.

So you suggest I go ahead and file now. I prefer that. And we can deal with what we need to do when we get there. It appears we can go to the US, receive the green card, establish residency and return for limited time as long as we pay attention to the requirements to maintain a presence until we are ready to live in the US permanently. 

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Just now, morlee said:

So you suggest I go ahead and file now. I prefer that. And we can deal with what we need to do when we get there. It appears we can go to the US, receive the green card, establish residency and return for limited time as long as we pay attention to the requirements to maintain a presence until we are ready to live in the US permanently. 

Exactly!  You can delay at two different points in the process. It is counterintuitive to people in this process.

 

Just be aware that the longest you want to be out of the US on a conditional green card is a year.   If you think or know that you will be gone over a year you can get a re-entry permit prior to leaving.

March 2, 2018  Married In Hong Kong

April 30, 2018  Mary moves from the Philippines to Mexico, Husband has MX Permanent Residency

June 13, 2018 Mary receives Mexican Residency Card

June 15, 2018  I-130 DCF Appointment in Juarez  -  June 18, 2018  Approval E-Mail

August 2, 2018 Case Complete At Consulate

September 25, 2018 Interview in CDJ and Approved!

October 7, 2018 In the USA

October 27, 2018 Green Card received 

October 29, 2018 Applied for Social Security Card - November 5, 2018 Social Security Card received

November 6th, 2018 State ID Card Received, Applied for Global Entry - Feb 8,2019 Approved.

July 14, 2020 Removal of Conditions submitted by mail  July 12, 2021 Biometrics Completed

August 6, 2021 N-400 submitted by mail

September 7, 2021 I-751 Interview, Sept 8 Approved and Card Being Produced

October 21, 2021 N-400 Biometrics Completed  

November 30,2021  Interview, Approval and Oath

December 10, 2021 US Passport Issued

August 12, 2022 PHL Dual Nationality Re-established & Passport Approved 

April 6,2023 Legally Separated - Oh well

 
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