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Why dosn't anyone come out and say it...the political elites in both parties are selling the American people down sh*t river.

It's cheap votes vs. cheap labor and the American people are the real losers in this pissing match.

The current crop of lame politicians in office should be tried for treason and sumarily shot for allowing America to be invaded in mass by foreign nationals that have breached our wide open borders due to their incompetence.

Who cares if it was caused by the Demublicans or the Republicrats. The end result is that we are being srewed royally by the political elites that have sold us out.

"Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: Those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave."

"...for the system to be credible, people actually have to be deported at the end of the process."

US Congresswoman Barbara Jordan (D-TX)

Testimony to the House Immigration Subcommittee, February 24, 1995

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Why dosn't anyone come out and say it...the political elites in both parties are selling the American people down sh*t river.

It's cheap votes vs. cheap labor and the American people are the real losers in this pissing match.

The current crop of lame politicians in office should be tried for treason and sumarily shot for allowing America to be invaded in mass by foreign nationals that have breached our wide open borders due to their incompetence.

Who cares if it was caused by the Demublicans or the Republicrats. The end result is that we are being srewed royally by the political elites that have sold us out.

yup. they are 2 sides of the same coin

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Senator Barack Obama
Senate Floor Speech on Public Debt
March 16, 2006



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I sense the local employment office will be busy soon ... and the unemployment rate for the area will be less too :P

Bingo!

As will wages be higher.

And a stable ... dependable work force. One that obeys the law and has a tendency to not be taken away.

Costs go down: less repeat training, no fines for hiring illegal’s, no bribes to pay for notification of future "raids", puts money into the community (pay taxes), etc.

actually.. not.. from the examples in NC... when Smithfields had the ICE raid, and after that the 300-400 other employees quit cuz they were skeered.. wages didn't increase, USC's got paid the same.. also.. no, I'm not trying to be an 'enabler'.. but ask any RH person from those big plants, and they don't want Americans.. why, those jobs (meat, fruit, processing etc), are hard, and since the illegals don't have a lot of options, they stay.. Americans have a very high rate of rotation in those plants, thats why they even had to use re-hiring policies (rehire after 1 year, rehire after 90 days), cuz people work for 2 weeks, then quit, go somewhere else, and try to go back.. theres 50 new people every week, 30 leave, 20 stay.. so the training costs increase a lot... don't believe me, call Smithfields packin, Mountaire farms or Prestage farms from NC...

so.. it's not that easy..

what this means is ... USCs are more than willing to work for the same wages as paid illegal’s AND we will NEVER tolerate anyone saying a USC will not work for the wages paid to an illegal.

Humm … do you still believe that illegal's are doing jobs no USC will perform?

If so ... I have a bridge for sale ... :lol:

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From DNC Chairman, Howard Dean - June 11 2007 (http://www.democrats.org/a/2007/06/dean_on_immigra_1.php):

The American people have made it clear they want a comprehensive immigration reform bill that will ... bring the 12 million people working and contributing to our society and economy out of the shadows.

If this is all the Republicans fault, why are the Democrats enabling it?

Before it was, "bring the 12 million Americans working and contributing to our society and economy out of the shadows."

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From DNC Chairman, Howard Dean - June 11 2007 (http://www.democrats.org/a/2007/06/dean_on_immigra_1.php):

The American people have made it clear they want a comprehensive immigration reform bill that will ... bring the 12 million people working and contributing to our society and economy out of the shadows.

If this is all the Republicans fault, why are the Democrats enabling it?

Before it was, "bring the 12 million Americans working and contributing to our society and economy out of the shadows."

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were they participating in the "dark side"

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