CURIOUS "GEORGE" 🤔

[azblk 338]

2 hours ago, Timona said:

I was a student. Knew my wife through university beforehand.

 

Not trying to discredit your point. My point was on timeframe. I think it's not enough to establish a good relationship. Similar to going overseas,  meeting for a day then coming back and applying for K-1 as mentioned by @Jorgedig.

 

There is no hard and fast rule on how long people who want to be together should wait before getting married.

 

Some people take a very long time and still their marriages fail and some don't and they stay married for a long time. Just because you knew your wife at the university for a long time doesn't make your marriage anymore valid than the guy who met his wife last night at a casino in Vegas and eloped.

[dwheels76 5,468]

8 hours ago, Timona said:

Been wondering this for a while. Been seeing a new wave of people (from another immigration site) who come over on B visas and right off the plane, file asylum. I think this asylum is a placeholder for them to stay till they figure it out. Soon, thereafter, they marry a citizen and as soon as they get their GC from marriage to a citizen, their first destination is their country of birth.

They then withdraw asylum application. 

 

Here's my question: why would you go back to a place from which you sought asylum from? So it became safe all of a sudden as soon as you got your GC? 

I do believe the report came out that over 60% of asylum cases are fraud. People lying. I know a few from Nigeria and Ghana filing under persecution of being gay. But they aren't and get here and marry the opposite sex.

 

This is one reason why the asylum process takes so long because people need to be vetted.

[Duke & Marie 1,389]

8 hours ago, Timona said:

On the issue of asylum and from a horse's mouth: I was informed how my fellow countrymen are being advised to lie on their petition that they're married to increase their chances of getting visas. As soon as they land, they file for asylum as a placeholder then marry. 

One did this. Come AOS, it was brought to her attention that she's now a bigamist. In her defense, she comes online asking for help and claims a cyber agent was the one who made the mistake in claiming she was married during her non-immigrant visa application. While she's busy trying to convince us, a fellow countryman, who was honest, replies to her thread and comes clean, saying that they are advised to lie during their non-immigrant visa application. She is honest and is seeking a way to remedy her situation. OP vanishes. 

Few weeks later, OP comes back. During her absence, she did more "research" on how to solve her problem. She's now advising other fellow countrymen to apply for "single certificate" which would be stamped by authorities back home and they can then present it to USCIS to prove that the Cyber guy indeed made an error. 

1. There's nothing like such a certificate in my country. This is just another lie in an aim to cover the first.

2. This is a piece of paper that I can be "made" for me within an hour and with all necessary stamps.

 

Anyway, I called her out on it. Yes, you can immigrate, but do it rightfully.

 

I rest my case

Hence why people have problems with refugees, AOS etc.. basically jumping the line wherever possible... but generally called racist if raise the problem... its not racism when concern about abuse of the system is raised legitimately.. 

 

one thing I like about my home countries immigration system..

1, no such thing as an anchor baby.. baby born here is nationalised the same as moms home country if non of the parents are legal residents, 

2, enter this country without approval, you get put on an island whist processed asylum or otherwise Unless very rare situation.. 

3, marriage applications done from home country, unless you’ve been a legal resistant for 3 years.. so no AOS basically

 

is it hard yes, fair, who knows, do we have a massive immigration issue? No. Do the liberals like it? Most definitely not... but hey it works, 

 

Edited January 13, 2020 by Duke & Marie

[Duke & Marie 1,389]

2 hours ago, azblk said:

doesn't make your marriage anymore valid than the guy who met his wife last night at a casino in Vegas and eloped.

Lol might be grounds for invalid marriage tho... I’m pretty sure most states there’s a requirement for being sober at time of marriage. 😂

[HRQX 4,145]

12 minutes ago, Duke & Marie said:

I’m pretty sure most states there’s a requirement for being sober at time of marriage. 😂

I could only find 2 states:

• Mississippi Code § 93-1-5(e): "In no event shall a license be issued by the circuit court clerk when it appears to the circuit court clerk that the applicants are, or either of them is: Intoxicated; or..." https://law.justia.com/codes/mississippi/2013/title-93/chapter-1/section-93-1-5/
• Tennessee Code 36-3-109: "No license shall be issued when it appears that the applicants or either of them is at the time drunk, insane or an imbecile." https://law.justia.com/codes/tennessee/2010/title-36/chapter-3/part-1/36-3-109/

[Duke & Marie 1,389]

1 minute ago, HRQX said:

I could only find 2 states:

• Mississippi Code § 93-1-5(e): "In no event shall a license be issued by the circuit court clerk when it appears to the circuit court clerk that the applicants are, or either of them is: Intoxicated; or..." https://law.justia.com/codes/mississippi/2013/title-93/chapter-1/section-93-1-5/
• Tennessee Code 36-3-109: "No license shall be issued when it appears that the applicants or either of them is at the time drunk, insane or an imbecile." https://law.justia.com/codes/tennessee/2010/title-36/chapter-3/part-1/36-3-109/

Wow here we must be sober, figured it a no brainer... that’s truely surprising 

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1 hour ago, Duke & Marie said:

Wow here we must be sober, figured it a no brainer... that’s truely surprising 

I'm more surprised by the part of the code that says one cannot be an imbecile.

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6 hours ago, Highmystic said:

several years back, I seen a nighttime airport video, a couple hundred people getting off a plane on the tarmac, single file line.  The kicker is it was a FedEx plane.  So FedEx carries people too?  Smuggling.  Oh, and they boarded a fleet of buses to destinations unknown.

They were asylum seekers shipped by FedEx probably😀

[Duke & Marie 1,389]

1 hour ago, Jorgedig said:

I'm more surprised by the part of the code that says one cannot be an imbecile.

That section alone rules out a lot of people I know 😂😂

[Lucky2Lucky 2,526]

16 hours ago, Timona said:

 

 

Here's my question: why would you go back to a place from which you sought asylum from? So it became safe all of a sudden as soon as you got your GC? 

Because they lied? If someone was truly so fearful for their life they wouldn’t go back to their home country.

[azblk 338]

58 minutes ago, Luckycuds said:

Because they lied? If someone was truly so fearful for their life they wouldn’t go back to their home country.

Asylums generally takes a long time to get and alot of times by the time asylum is approved maybe the situation has changed enough for them to return home.

 

In my home country for instance, it almost safe to be gay as long as you do not wear it on your sleeve until it is election time and the powers that be are looking for the Christian Taliban votes and then allover a sudden gay people start getting demagogued for every problem that is in the country from child abuse to rape of straight women by gay men.

[Carpe Vinum 2,327]

"Your 2 months (2weeks) of vacation is not enough to know someone fully and make a lifetime decision."

 

This would eliminate 75% of K-1s :-)))))

Edited January 13, 2020 by boris64

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14 hours ago, MaleAlpha said:

USCIS and the government knows about this abuse (It's been going on for more than 20 years) and if they choose not to do anything about it, I don't see why people get so upset over it.

 

If you are upset with the situation, write letters to your representatives in congress and lobby for them to change the law. Until then, you're just venting and upset for nothing.

This is wrong on so many levels. People can express their displeasure with how a government sector is ran. Also, nobody in the world should just sit back and take it. The US government is slow at times but it is also the foundation of democracy. The American people can ask for changes. Yes, it may take a long time, but at least we can vote for change. there are places in the world where people would get assassinated if they asked for change from the government.

 

Everything from slavery, to women's rights, and gay rights started out with a few voices that wanted to be heard. The "don't complain because they are not going to do anything anyway" approach would not have us where we are today.

[Nat&Amy 623]

3 hours ago, boris64 said:

"Your 2 months (2weeks) of vacation is not enough to know someone fully and make a lifetime decision."

 

This would eliminate 75% of K-1s :-)))))

I know my response is off topic, but more often than not we see people posting here to ask if USCIS would have a problem with them having only met their significant other a few months prior to petitioning and proposing on the first visit, when the questions they should be asking are: do I really know this person well enough? Are we both ready for this commitment? Am I sure this person is not in it for a green card?

 

Sure, there are no guarantees a marriage will last regardless of how long people have known each other, but but when there is immigration involved, the challenges multiply. A little extra caution and patience never killed anyone, and would lower the number of cases of spouses willing to "ship" their partners back to their country of origin when things go south. 🙄🙄

[TBoneTX 45,288]

13 hours ago, Nat&Amy said:

we see people posting here to ask if USCIS would have a problem with them having only met their significant other a few months prior to petitioning and proposing on the first visit

They should more properly be asking whether their consulate would have the problem...