CURIOUS "GEORGE" 🤔

[Timona 4,208]

Been wondering this for a while. Been seeing a new wave of people (from another immigration site) who come over on B visas and right off the plane, file asylum. I think this asylum is a placeholder for them to stay till they figure it out. Soon, thereafter, they marry a citizen and as soon as they get their GC from marriage to a citizen, their first destination is their country of birth.

They then withdraw asylum application. 

 

Here's my question: why would you go back to a place from which you sought asylum from? So it became safe all of a sudden as soon as you got your GC? 

[JeanneAdil 6,579]

It would not make any more sense than some of the things our government does and some of the things they allow

it is just mouth to mouth advice that people are giving each other on how to beat the system

 

[Georgia16 2,858]

A great reason why AOS from within any tourist visa, overstay and bla bla should not be allowed. 

[JeanneAdil 6,579]

2 minutes ago, Georgia16 said:

A great reason why AOS from within any tourist visa, overstay and bla bla should not be allowed. 

totally agree

[Boiler 45,728]

Presumably they have family friends, issues to tie up like anybody else.

[Nat&Amy 623]

Until laws change, there will always be people who abuse their temporary visas. Very few changes in circumstances should allow AoS. The whole plot of coming to visit, "suddenly" deciding to get married and stay should require applicants to return to their home country to do consular processing. How many couples with a valid B visa here could have easily "decided" to get married on one of those visits and skipped all the wait, all the separation? Yet, here we are... People have learnt to game the system; it's time the system ups their game.

Edited January 12, 2020 by Nat&Amy

[kris&me 572]

i have no issue with an american wanting to marry here and a person coming to accommodate the USC so the USC family can be part of it / even to have the other family here on tourist visa to also attend 

but that person needs to return and go thru the CR1 as we all do

and if USCIS would do away with the AOS for a visitor maybe more tourists visas could be issued so people come here to spend their money 

[Timona 4,208]

7 minutes ago, kris&me said:

i have no issue with an american wanting to marry here and a person coming to accommodate the USC so the USC family can be part of it / even to have the other family here on tourist visa to also attend 

but that person needs to return and go thru the CR1 as we all do

and if USCIS would do away with the AOS for a visitor maybe more tourists visas could be issued so people come here to spend their money 

 

Never came to terms how someone who's vacationing, suddenly falls in love, decides to stay and adjust. Your 2 months of vacation is not enough to know someone fully and make a lifetime decision.

[Timona 4,208]

On the issue of asylum and from a horse's mouth: I was informed how my fellow countrymen are being advised to lie on their petition that they're married to increase their chances of getting visas. As soon as they land, they file for asylum as a placeholder then marry. 

One did this. Come AOS, it was brought to her attention that she's now a bigamist. In her defense, she comes online asking for help and claims a cyber agent was the one who made the mistake in claiming she was married during her non-immigrant visa application. While she's busy trying to convince us, a fellow countryman, who was honest, replies to her thread and comes clean, saying that they are advised to lie during their non-immigrant visa application. She is honest and is seeking a way to remedy her situation. OP vanishes. 

Few weeks later, OP comes back. During her absence, she did more "research" on how to solve her problem. She's now advising other fellow countrymen to apply for "single certificate" which would be stamped by authorities back home and they can then present it to USCIS to prove that the Cyber guy indeed made an error. 

1. There's nothing like such a certificate in my country. This is just another lie in an aim to cover the first.

2. This is a piece of paper that I can be "made" for me within an hour and with all necessary stamps.

 

Anyway, I called her out on it. Yes, you can immigrate, but do it rightfully.

 

I rest my case

[Boiler 45,728]

This is very common scenario, comes up quite often on VJ, they never come back.

[azblk 338]

3 hours ago, Timona said:

 

Never came to terms how someone who's vacationing, suddenly falls in love, decides to stay and adjust. Your 2 months of vacation is not enough to know someone fully and make a lifetime decision.

just like someone comes on a student visa to study and then return home falls in love and decides to stay and adjust.

[SalishSea 17,969]

3 hours ago, Timona said:

 

Never came to terms how someone who's vacationing, suddenly falls in love, decides to stay and adjust. Your 2 months of vacation is not enough to know someone fully and make a lifetime decision.

Not that much different from USCs who travel to meet their online romance, and file for a K-1 right after spending a week with that person.

[Timona 4,208]

30 minutes ago, azblk said:

just like someone comes on a student visa to study and then return home falls in love and decides to stay and adjust.

I was a student. Knew my wife through university beforehand.

 

Not trying to discredit your point. My point was on timeframe. I think it's not enough to establish a good relationship. Similar to going overseas,  meeting for a day then coming back and applying for K-1 as mentioned by @Jorgedig.

 

[Highmystic 234]

5 hours ago, Timona said:

Been wondering this for a while. Been seeing a new wave of people (from another immigration site) who come over on B visas and right off the plane, file asylum. I think this asylum is a placeholder for them to stay till they figure it out. Soon, thereafter, they marry a citizen and as soon as they get their GC from marriage to a citizen, their first destination is their country of birth.

They then withdraw asylum application. 

 

Here's my question: why would you go back to a place from which you sought asylum from? So it became safe all of a sudden as soon as you got your GC? 

several years back, I seen a nighttime airport video, a couple hundred people getting off a plane on the tarmac, single file line.  The kicker is it was a FedEx plane.  So FedEx carries people too?  Smuggling.  Oh, and they boarded a fleet of buses to destinations unknown.

Edited January 13, 2020 by Highmystic
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[MaleAlpha 314]

USCIS and the government knows about this abuse (It's been going on for more than 20 years) and if they choose not to do anything about it, I don't see why people get so upset over it.

 

If you are upset with the situation, write letters to your representatives in congress and lobby for them to change the law. Until then, you're just venting and upset for nothing.