Proof of Domicile for Petitioner (merged topics)

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

2 hours ago, Loren Y said:

He cannot use a joint sponsor, please see my previous post, it says exactly what he needs to do, I believe he is looking for a loophole that does not exist. If OP would actually listen to the well versed members here, all he has to do is have his wife return to the US with their son, and within a month she can literally have everything he needs to follow her. If they get on it ASAP, and don't mess around, he should have his visa in a few months. She would rent an apartment, open a bank account, enroll their child in school, she probably has no residence abroad to sell, so that's out, but she could have everything else on that list, and proof of it within a month. As the well versed members like yourself know, 2-3 months away from your loved ones and family is really a drop in the bucket compared to what some have gone thru on here. I don't know how people go years not being together, you really have to love someone to manage that, and the 8-9 months I did seemed like an eternity to me, so I feel the pain.

Oh I completely agree with you on this. I am just stating that it is kinda weird that she has none of these at all. I would understand if you didn't have a job or a lease but not even a bank account is pretty out there

[Crazy Cat 42,358]

1 hour ago, UltraHD said:

How much time did it take to be completed? 

In our case, I had already re-established domicile in the US before we started the process.....so it took about 13 months from filing to visa in hand.  In your case, the timeline could be much shorter since you have already interviewed.  

 

1.  Your wife moves back to US.

2.  She obtains a place to reside.

3.  She established documented proof that she actually has re-located back to the US (Driver's License address, utility bills, rent agreement, etc.)

4.  She submits those documents to the consulate in response to the 221g

5.  You wait for the visa to be issued.

6.  You re-locate to the US to join your family.

 

This process could be completed in as little as a few months.....Of course, administrative processing length can vary.......

 

Just my opinion.

Edited January 19, 2020 by missileman

[gregcrs2 1,778]

5 hours ago, UltraHD said:

I had an interview at the US Embassy Islamabad, the interview went well, but the Consular did not issue me the visa and said to show Petitioner's Proof of Domicile.

 

My wife is the petitioner of my case, she is a US Citizen. She has been living in Pakistan since 2017 and did not go back. My wife was dependent upon her parents before marriage so she did not have any bank account, house paper, vehicle ownership, and tax return.

 

My Question is how I could show the Proof of her Domicile?

We have one year old son he is also US Citizen.

Please give me advice to get out of this situation.

Thanks

I will try to make this reply as simple as possible so you can understand.

 

A domicile is the place where the sponsor petitioner (your US citizen wife) lives and intends to live in the foreseeable future in the USA.

Since your wife (the petitioner) is residing abroad for more than 2 years, the State Department is requiring her to prove that her principal residence is in the United States. 

Suggestions to establish domicile for immigration purposes.

1.     Have your US Citizen wife move back to the United States;

2.     Have your US Citizen wife establish a bank account, maintain bank balances, and show banking transactions (like buying food, paying bills) in the United States;

3.     Transfer some funds from your country to your US Citizen wife's bank account in the United States;

4.     Have your US Citizen wife try to find a job in the United States;

5.     Have your US Citizen wife register to vote in the United States;

6.     Have your US Citizen wife get a Drivers License in the state she will live in the United States.

 

USCIS and State Department have both taken the position that the burden of proving the domicile is on the sponsor (in this case, that is your US Citizen wife).  The adjudicating officer after looking at all the factors will make a determination if domicile has been proven.

 

There is no advice to give you to "get out" of your situation.  If your wife does not establish domicile, you will not receive a spousal visa to immigrate to the USA.

[UltraHD 24]

1 hour ago, Boiler said:

Quite what is required seems to vary by Consulate, for example those going through Canada are expected to show that they are clearly based in the US. Pakistan I do not think is quite so strict but needs something.

 

So it seems she has nothing, does beg of course what your Wife's plan is, she is the USC she is the one who is sponsoring you is responsible to show domicile and meet the financial obligations. There also seem language issues so best if she takes part in this discussion.

 

I would anticipate she will need to move first, get a residence, job etc. That is what others have done and that has worked.

More reasonable answer

 

What if she does not want to do a job?

[UltraHD 24]

1 hour ago, Mollie09 said:

US immigration does not care at all about family structures in Pakistan.

Your wife likely needs to move to the US ahead of you to find a place to live, open bank accounts, get a driver's license, etc. and prove you both intend to live there.

I appreciate your precise answer

Thanks

[UltraHD 24]

1 hour ago, Orangesapples said:

Opening a bank account is pretty easy, your wife should at the very least do that. 

Thanks

What else other than doing a job.

[LilyJ 1,258]

Just now, UltraHD said:

Thanks

What else other than doing a job.

Moving back to the US and establishing a US address is a start, opening a bank account, obtaining a US drivers license, as others have already said

[UltraHD 24]

1 hour ago, Marieke H said:

Oh, now you want @missileman to help you, after telling him repeatedly to get off your post...

 

Your entitled attitude is not going to get you very far.

 

As others have said, your wife has to move to the US and establish domicile. It doesn't have to take long. It's not something you can do; she, as the petitioner, will have to work on this, which is why people are asking for her to join this thread so we can help her.

I am replying according to the Post.

If I say anyone not to post it was according to reply.

I have read others' post, I don't need your attendtion

Federal Court Attorney
Marieke H

[Crazy Cat 42,358]

1 minute ago, UltraHD said:

I am replying according to the Post.

If I say anyone not to post it was according to reply.

I have read others' post, I don't need your attendtion

Federal Court Attorney
Marieke H

You really need to read the terms of service for this web site.....

[Just Paul 4,595]

2 minutes ago, UltraHD said:

I am replying according to the Post.

If I say anyone not to post it was according to reply.

I have read others' post, I don't need your attendtion
 

That didn;t take long to get to,

[UltraHD 24]

12 minutes ago, gregcrs2 said:

I will try to make this reply as simple as possible so you can understand.

 

A domicile is the place where the sponsor petitioner (your US citizen wife) lives and intends to live in the foreseeable future in the USA.

Since your wife (the petitioner) is residing abroad for more than 2 years, the State Department is requiring her to prove that her principal residence is in the United States. 

Suggestions to establish domicile for immigration purposes.

1.     Have your US Citizen wife move back to the United States;

2.     Have your US Citizen wife establish a bank account, maintain bank balances, and show banking transactions (like buying food, paying bills) in the United States;

3.     Transfer some funds from your country to your US Citizen wife's bank account in the United States;

4.     Have your US Citizen wife try to find a job in the United States;

5.     Have your US Citizen wife register to vote in the United States;

6.     Have your US Citizen wife get a Drivers License in the state she will live in the United States.

 

USCIS and State Department have both taken the position that the burden of proving the domicile is on the sponsor (in this case, that is your US Citizen wife).  The adjudicating officer after looking at all the factors will make a determination if domicile has been proven.

 

There is no advice to give you to "get out" of your situation.  If your wife does not establish domicile, you will not receive a spousal visa to immigrate to the USA.

Thanks

I appreciate

[Crazy Cat 42,358]

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[JeanneAdil 6,666]

14 minutes ago, UltraHD said:

I am replying according to the Post.

If I say anyone not to post it was according to reply.

I have read others' post, I don't need your attendtion

Federal Court Attorney
Marieke H

you can not say  this

this violates the terms of VJ site

 

If u do not like what someone says,  just ignore it / no rude comments

Edited January 19, 2020 by JeanneAdil

[Boiler 46,144]

OK so she does not want to work, who does?

 

So she can still move back etc and that leaves the issue of sponsorship.

 

So see the I 864 but she either needs significant savings which I am going to assume is unlikely or a Joint Sponsor, does she have anybody in the US who can be a Joint Sponsor.

[JeanneAdil 6,666]

22 minutes ago, UltraHD said:

More reasonable answer

 

What if she does not want to do a job?

she has to show an income to support the application